"V" rated tyres on the back?
"V" rated tyres on the back?
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pwd95

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8,457 posts

267 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Will I be ok with these do you think? Never go over 100/110 (kmh you understand rolleyes) in short bursts scratchchin

dickymint

29,078 posts

287 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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pwd95 said:
Will I be ok with these do you think? Never go over 100/110 (kmh you understand rolleyes) in short bursts scratchchin


V tyres are rated to 149MPH. Tricky one really Wyn. Insurers can get really funny if you have tyres rated below manufacturers spec. Your's started out life as a 350? now is 460?

I know i have to have W or better on my 420

Ye Olde Wecg

76 posts

239 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Hi Wynn, dickymint has a good point. The big risk these days is what might your insurance company use to reduce, or even get out of coughing up their precious cash should the worse happen.

My 350i handbook lists 'V' rated tyres, I guess yours does too, but it would be well worth getting their acceptance of the tyres in writing if different, just in case.

I've met a fair few insurance company assessors over the years and I'm sure they get a bonus if they manage to reduce a payout. Most of them seem to be former mechanics or body shop supervisors and are very good at spotting anything that isn't standard.


davidy

4,492 posts

313 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Hi, don't normally post in the Wedge section, but a cautionary tale....

You are buying a perfomance package when you buy tyres, not just a max speed rating.

A few years ago I did a trackday (noddy little airfield circuit) in a friends TVR M Turbo with my Taimar Wheels/Tyres. THe Turbo specified V rated tyres, my tyres were H rated (on the old system that was up to 135mph, in those days V was the highest rated tyre you could buy at 135mph+)

At the end of the day, the tyres looked ok at a superficial glance, but on further inspection, whole tread blocks were missing!

Now we never went above about 90mph on the day, but obviously a Turbo accelerates a bit quicker than a Taimar

Personally I would put on the best tyres you can afford

davidy

jvaughan

6,025 posts

312 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Only ever run V rated tyres on my wedge and it gets loads of abuse (when its running!)

Done a few high speed runs in them, but usually only drive at 80 - 90.
I found the higher rated tyres a little soft but V rated are ok.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

300 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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I am staggered that anyone would ever skimp on tyres.

From what I hear, your car has a lot of grunt. Why risk it for a few quid?

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Which tyre size are you looking at? 225/50/15? If so the Dunlop SP SPORT 9000
225/50 R15 ZR with rim-protection is a fine tyre.

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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TVR specified V rated tyres for the 400/450 models, although I personally have always used Z or W rated. Obviously top speed is not the only factor determining an appropriate tyre - acceleration and deceleration forces, lateral loading, vehicle/driver weight etc. I would think that it would be easy to argue that as long as you haven't got a power output in excess of the maufacturers quotes (how many Big Wedges really have?) then you could legitimately use a V. Whether you feel comfortable doing so is another matter.

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pwd95

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8,457 posts

267 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Not trying to skimp or anything but my local tyre man can't get the Z's from his suppliers, only the V's. If they'r ok I'd rather give him the custom. thumbup

davidy

4,492 posts

313 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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In the old days before higher ratings V were rated as 135mph +, now they are rated to 149mph

Just be careful and its really not worth skimping

davidy

Ye Olde Wecg

76 posts

239 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Not strictly to do with speed rating, but there have been some very enlightening tests done recently on motorcycle tyres. It has been shown that the super sticky high performance sports tyres give no better grip than touring tyres in normal use. Touring tyres also last much longer. The main reason for this is sports tyres need to be worked very hard, all the time, to get and keep the optimum working temperature in them. Not easy to achieve on her majesty's highway!
Could it be argued that a car tyre approved for sustained speeds of 150mph+ but only used in normal driving conditions is at the same disadvantage to sports bike tyres?
Leaving track day use out of the argument for now, what do you think? I've not seen similar tests done on car tyres, about time someone did. Or have they?

l33

3,469 posts

253 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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pwd95 said:
Not trying to skimp or anything but my local tyre man can't get the Z's from his suppliers, only the V's. If they'r ok I'd rather give him the custom. thumbup


Have you tried a few of the web based tyre places?
The must be available from somewhere - what size / rating are you after - I'll have a look around Birmingham for you thumbup

As someone else has already suggested - it might pay to get in writing that the rating you can get hold of are OK?

scratchchin

pwd95

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8,457 posts

267 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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Hi Lee, they're 225 50 15. I'd prefer Z's obviously, thanks. Will be ringing around in earnest tommorow myself too thumbup

micha

1,731 posts

252 months

Monday 30th October 2006
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here in my country you are more or less "forced" by the mot to use the correct tyre size, including the right speed-index. there isnt any discusion with the mot-tester and even not with the insurance to fit e.g. H-tyres instead of V ones.

you can do it, but involved in an accident, you automatically loose the complete coverage of your insurance.

is it worth? it isnt!!!

dickymint

29,078 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Check out this link.... www.tyresave.co.uk/tyrspeed.html

According to the owners handbook V rated tyres were used as standard on 350i.

V = For vehicles with a speed capability not exceeding 240 Km/h (e.g. 225.55 R 15 91V

VR is very different.. = For vehicles having speed capability over 210 Km/h (e.g. 195.50 VR 15)

Any thoughts?

FHCNICK

1,376 posts

260 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Always thought the R refered to the radius of the tyre and had no bearing on the speed rating?

Hormone

823 posts

266 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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JR said:
Which tyre size are you looking at? 225/50/15? If so the Dunlop SP SPORT 9000
225/50 R15 ZR with rim-protection is a fine tyre.
True but I only got 5000 miles out of my rears & I don't drive like a loon. They are ZR's.

pwd95

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8,457 posts

267 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Looks like it's going to be Hancock Z's. Anyone tried them?

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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dickymint said:
Check out this link.... www.tyresave.co.uk/tyrspeed.html

According to the owners handbook V rated tyres were used as standard on 350i.

V = For vehicles with a speed capability not exceeding 240 Km/h (e.g. 225.55 R 15 91V

VR is very different.. = For vehicles having speed capability over 210 Km/h (e.g. 195.50 VR 15)

Any thoughts?



OOh - cheers Dicky, I always thought R xxxV was the same as VR xxx - now I know!!! I'll avoid the V's ;^) from now on.

Edited by adam quantrill on Tuesday 7th November 11:54

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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adam quantrill said:
dickymint said:
Check out this link.... www.tyresave.co.uk/tyrspeed.html

According to the owners handbook V rated tyres were used as standard on 350i.

V = For vehicles with a speed capability not exceeding 240 Km/h (e.g. 225.55 R 15 91V

VR is very different.. = For vehicles having speed capability over 210 Km/h (e.g. 195.50 VR 15)

Any thoughts?



OOh - cheers Dicky, I always thought R xxxV was the same as VR xxx - now I know!!! I'll avoid the VR's from now on.

Re-read Dicky's post and you may wish to revise that.