Bike Security

[anonymous-user]

Seeing as I have just got my first bike wondered whether I needed to contemplate any security stuff!!

Bike will be garaged when not in use and only taken out for evening blatts and weekend runs to pub etc. I'm guessing with that type of use I really don't need anything but interested to hear peoples opinions.

[remal]

my fazer when I pick iy up Friday has a Datatool Veto Evo. already fitted

www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=veto_evo

I have also bought these
Disc lock:
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_disclock
ground anchor
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=fortress1
and chain and lock
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_portable

And what made you think I got 20% off the gear

[anonymous-user]

remal said:

my fazer when I pick iy up Friday has a Datatool Veto Evo. already fitted

www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=veto_evo

I have also bought these
Disc lock:
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_disclock
ground anchor
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=fortress1
and chain and lock
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_portable

And what made you think I got 20% off the gear

They saw you coming mate with that "I'm a Newbie, sell me stuff" sticker on your forehead

Just checked all the stuff you got... bloody hell you are not taking any chances are you

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 5th November 16:46

[hiccy]

I haven't figured out disk locks: what's the point in them?

[randlemarcus]

Personal opinion, get what you need for insurance purposes.
Alarm sucks the battery over a few days.
Ground anchor will annoy the council or your landlord/wife
Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.
BFO chain is going to be a PITA to carry around,

and the really amusing thing is absolutely none of this will stop the toerag who wants to steal your bike from stealing your bike.

[san2000]

randlemarcus said:

Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.

Is that true?

Edited by san2000 on Sunday 5th November 18:46

Edited by san2000 on Sunday 5th November 18:46

[anonymous-user]

san2000 said:

randlemarcus said:

Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.

Is that true?

Edited by san2000 on Sunday 5th November 18:46

Edited by san2000 on Sunday 5th November 18:46

I have seen a fab one (well seemed fab in the video) that is your left footpeg and a disclock in one. You can never leave it on accidentally as you realise as soon as you try to rest your left foot to engage first gear!!!

[rsvmilly]

san2000 said:

randlemarcus said:

Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.

Is that true?

I managed to forget a disk lock whilst I was wheeling my bike around. I couldn't figure out what was stopping it so I pushed a bit harder until... Crack! Front mudguard broken!

[anonymous-user]

Here it is...




Luma

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 5th November 19:10

[randlemarcus]

rsvmilly said:

san2000 said:

randlemarcus said:

Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.

Is that true?

I managed to forget a disk lock whilst I was wheeling my bike around. I couldn't figure out what was stopping it so I pushed a bit harder until... Crack! Front mudguard broken!

Hearsay only, but this was while my chap was discouraging me from buying a disclock as he had just finished replacing the front disc on a gixxer. I suspect this to have been a worst case scenario.

[julianb]

randlemarcus said:

Personal opinion, get what you need for insurance purposes.
Alarm sucks the battery over a few days.
Ground anchor will annoy the council or your landlord/wife
Disclock you will leave on and crack your discs.
BFO chain is going to be a PITA to carry around,

and the really amusing thing is absolutely none of this will stop the toerag who wants to steal your bike from stealing your bike.

Wise words. If they want it, they'll take it. How do you guard against organised thieves who turn up in a liveried cosha looking van, then proceed to 'freeze' your chain to make it easier to break, then put a couple of lengths of scaffold through the wheels, hoik it into the van (with the alarm blaring, and nobody paying a shit of notice), then piss off into the wide blue yonder, and all in the space of a minute...

[remal]

garyhun said:

remal said:

my fazer when I pick iy up Friday has a Datatool Veto Evo. already fitted

www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=veto_evo

I have also bought these
Disc lock:
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_disclock
ground anchor
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=fortress1
and chain and lock
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/products/index.php?product=python_portable

And what made you think I got 20% off the gear

They saw you coming mate with that "I'm a Newbie, sell me stuff" sticker on your forehead

Just checked all the stuff you got... bloody hell you are not taking any chances are you

Edited by garyhun on Sunday 5th November 16:46

in the end I hope it will last me for a few bikes. disc lock just adds to me feeling is kept safe.

I

[aeropilot]

garyhun said:

Bike will be garaged when not in use and only taken out for evening blatts and weekend runs to pub etc. I'm guessing with that type of use I really don't need anything but interested to hear peoples opinions.

Thought the same when I bought my Monster, although I did have it Datatagged. Thieveing scumbags broke into the garage and chucked the bike into a van, (the battery was on charge on my kitchen floor at the time) and then graffiti tagged the garage door for kicks......

Currently 2 years on, still getting screwed insurance wise still after the payout, which still left me £2k+ out of pocket.....

Don't scrimp on security....put a garage defender on the garage door, ground anchor inside...do everything you can...I wished I had.

[remal]

aeropilot said:

garyhun said:

Bike will be garaged when not in use and only taken out for evening blatts and weekend runs to pub etc. I'm guessing with that type of use I really don't need anything but interested to hear peoples opinions.

Don't scrimp on security....put a garage defender on the garage door, ground anchor inside...do everything you can...I wished I had.

my thoughts exactly. I have a garage door defender which works great.

Edited by remal on Sunday 5th November 21:53

[wedg1e]

aeropilot said:

Don't scrimp on security....put a garage defender on the garage door, ground anchor inside...do everything you can...I wished I had.

Hear hear. I almost lost a £50 Honda 100 that was secured by a £75 cable lock. The bastards tried sawing through it, then came back later with bolt croppers. All I could do was watch as the 5 of them calmly pocketed the cutters, lit ciggies and wandered off. Three of them, I might have had a go. I figured if I couldn't have a ratty ride-to-work, then I wasn't going to let some scrotes thrash it round a field either so I rode after them, pulled up alongside, gave them the finger and then parked the bike at my parents'. Sold it next day.

On the ST11 I have three chains, three locks of which two are Thatcham/ Sold Secure etc etc, and an alarm/ immob. Two of the chains are around something solid enough to require a Stihl saw to remove.
Don't worry too much about paying big wad for a Thatcham-approved install: you'll be lucky if it brings the premiums down by that much anyway. Spend about £50-70 on a reputable brand and have a competent techie fit it for beer money (or do it yourself for free).
Anything is better than nothing... even if only a disclock. It's also the easiest to take with you (though I used to like the Oxford Revolver cable lock as you could sling it across your chest... not too clever in a crash, perhaps...)

When I worked in vehicle security there was a gang operating in London who had a refrigerated van for nicking bikes. It wasn't the fridge they wanted, it was the insulation, which muffled the bike alarm... and another gang went as far as nicking a forklift on a lowloader so they could get a Porsche out of someone's garden.
If they want it, they'll find a way. Just don't be outsmarted by some 13-year-old sh!thead with a screwdriver in his arse pocket.

[rsvmilly]

wedg1e said:

If they want it, they'll find a way. Just don't be outsmarted by some 13-year-old sh!thead with a screwdriver in his arse pocket.

Layered security. Make your bike look a less attractive proposition than the others parked nearby.

[julianb]

[quote=Layered security. Make your bike look a less attractive proposition than the others parked nearby.[/quote]

That's the ticket.

Buy the dirtiest, shittiest old bike cover you can find and then lock your bike to every immoveable object within reach!