M4 Roadworks "Average Speed" cameras
Discussion
Hi, just to keep it short, I know how they work, it was a 40 and there was only one lane. I past 2 sets of camera's on my side while traveling under the speed limit, there was a gap between me and the guy infront and I thought I'd close it up so applied a little right foot, took a couple of second to touch 50 and then I braked and was back at 40 probably within 10-15 seconds.....then a couple of minutes later another set a cameras
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.The Hitman said:
Hi, just to keep it short, I know how they work, it was a 40 and there was only one lane. I past 2 sets of camera's on my side while traveling under the speed limit, there was a gap between me and the guy infront and I thought I'd close it up so applied a little right foot, took a couple of second to touch 50 and then I braked and was back at 40 probably within 10-15 seconds.....then a couple of minutes later another set a cameras
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.I doubt your average speed over the whole length of the roadworks would be high enough. Don't forget if your speedo reads 40, then you are probably a little under (high 30's?). You were only over the limit for a very small proportion of your journey, so I think you'll be OK.
hmm, someone clever can probably work this out but (and there is a bit of supposition here but anyway.....) lets assume that you travelled between the cameras for 3 minutes and travelled at 10mph over the speed limit for lets say 18 seconds then you would have been above the limit for 10% of your travel time between the cameras. you would have been 25% above the speed limit for that 18 seconds.
calling someone clever because my brain is a bit fuddled but...25% over speed limit for 10% of the time..how fast does that make the average speed?
if we say you went at 40mph for 90 % of the time (162 seconds) and then at 50pmh for 10% of the time (18 seconds), is your average speed not 41mph ? surely thats ok? there must be the usual 10% allowance for speedo error i'm sure. Also, your speedo is probably very slightly out. good luck.
one thing in your favour I didnt take into account is the time it would take to accelerate from 40 to 50 would bring the average down further.
calling someone clever because my brain is a bit fuddled but...25% over speed limit for 10% of the time..how fast does that make the average speed?
if we say you went at 40mph for 90 % of the time (162 seconds) and then at 50pmh for 10% of the time (18 seconds), is your average speed not 41mph ? surely thats ok? there must be the usual 10% allowance for speedo error i'm sure. Also, your speedo is probably very slightly out. good luck.
Edited by craigw on Monday 6th November 23:11
one thing in your favour I didnt take into account is the time it would take to accelerate from 40 to 50 would bring the average down further.
Edited by craigw on Monday 6th November 23:12
And I think they have a wobble built in, so in theory the 10%+2 applies. You werent taking the michael, so you should be fine.
Next time, remember that SPECS aren't certified for multiple lane enforcement, and change lanes between cameras. Or get a bike, and do the whole bleeding lot at 70.
Next time, remember that SPECS aren't certified for multiple lane enforcement, and change lanes between cameras. Or get a bike, and do the whole bleeding lot at 70.
randlemarcus said:
And I think they have a wobble built in, so in theory the 10%+2 applies. You werent taking the michael, so you should be fine.
Next time, remember that SPECS aren't certified for multiple lane enforcement, and change lanes between cameras. Or get a bike, and do the whole bleeding lot at 70.
Next time, remember that SPECS aren't certified for multiple lane enforcement, and change lanes between cameras. Or get a bike, and do the whole bleeding lot at 70.
I would have changed lanes as I know all too well what I can get away with (no points yet, touch-wood
), but there was a contraflow going on and, even though I wasn't actually in the contraflow, they closed off the other 2 lanes for all the invisable workmen on the job, so I only had one lane available.
Edited by The Hitman on Monday 6th November 23:36
GreenV8S said:
What's the distance you made up, compared to the distance between the cameras? E.g. 20 yards gained, between cameras 200 yards apart, represents a 10% increase in average speed.
Not sure really, maybe a little under 100 metres gain, but then I was behind him for between 1 1/2 to 2 minutes before the next camera with no idea how far I traveled
The Hitman said:
Hi, just to keep it short, I know how they work, it was a 40 and there was only one lane. I past 2 sets of camera's on my side while traveling under the speed limit, there was a gap between me and the guy infront and I thought I'd close it up so applied a little right foot, took a couple of second to touch 50 and then I braked and was back at 40 probably within 10-15 seconds.....then a couple of minutes later another set a cameras
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.
Cock!! So, where do I stand? I suspect I'll be getting a nice little letter in the post this time.You'll be OK - a blip like that won't affect you average speed much, as mentioned in another posting, chances are your speedo over-reads by 2-3 mph and I have yet to hear of anybody being prosecuted for less then 46mph in 40mph temporary limits.
I find cruise control useful under such circumstances!
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