clutch fluid woes - help
clutch fluid woes - help
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big_treacle

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1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Hi,
I'm having problems with my clutch fluid getting too hot and bubbling out of the bleed nipple causing me to lose hydraulic pressure & get stuck with no gears (and lots of nasty smoke where it drips on to hot engine components). Have a few questions:

- Where should this metal pipe be 'wedged' behind the engine? First mine fell on to the exhaust manifold & at the weekend, after a bit of spirited driving, it overheated as it was touching another metal part of the engine. Are there some special heatproof cable ties to tie it up with the other pipes & wires back there?

- Whats the procedure for bleeding clutch fluid & replacing it with new? I have an easybleed kit, but it would be a lot easier if it had instructions with it(!)

- If clutch fluid gets too hot should it be able to leak from the bleed nipple or has that become knackered and need replacing? Where can I get the part from and is it easy to fit myself?

Thanks in advance guys. Need to sort this out and I'd rather do it myself if possible than spend more money on the car right now.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

301 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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The bleed nipple should only be open when bleeding the clutch (to get the air out of the hydraulic fluid). You should not see any fluid leaking from there!

Steve.

big_treacle

Original Poster:

1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Steve_T said:
The bleed nipple should only be open when bleeding the clutch (to get the air out of the hydraulic fluid). You should not see any fluid leaking from there!

Steve.


It only leaks when its really hot. But it sounds like it must be knackered or loose.

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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On the V8 motors that i have seen, the bleed nipple is tied up near the base of the wipers just behind the off side air box.
no matter what, you should not get the bleed nipple leaking, it needs to be cleen and tight.
With the eze bleed you srew the cap onto the clutch resavoir, fill the bottle up about half to three quarter full (use 5.1 fluid it has a higher boiling point) then make sure the cap that goes on the bottle has the clear tube fixed to it so that it reaches the bottom or the bottle, make sure both caps are tight, then connect the air pipe to your tyre with no more than 20psi in it.
put a clear tube on the bleed nipple and place that in a jar (jam jar is ideal, but take the jam out first) then loosen the bleed nipple and let the fluid come out until you see clear fresh fluid come out, then lock it back up.
Make sure the bottle does not run out of fluid, and make sure you do not drop any brake fluid on the paint as it makes great paint stripper.
Hope this helps, and good luck.

big_treacle

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1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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OK Thanks guys.
*Makes note to eat jam*

Anyone know the deal with getting new bleed nipple parts?

methodwares

583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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kevin63 said:
On the V8 motors that i have seen, the bleed nipple is tied up near the base of the wipers just behind the off side air box.


ok, slightly off topic, as I'm american and don't get this near side, off side jargon, which side (near or off) is the drivers side. and what does near/off side actually mean?

btw, my bleed nipple is tied up to the clutch cable with a few zip ties

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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It means nearest to the kerb (i think side walk to you) is near side and the furthest away from the kerb (our drivers side) is off side.
Hope that makes sense, my American is not that good so i am guessing at side walk, could be foot path or pavement.

methodwares

583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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kevin63 said:
It means nearest to the kerb (i think side walk to you) is near side and the furthest away from the kerb (our drivers side) is off side.
Hope that makes sense, my American is not that good so i am guessing at side walk, could be foot path or pavement.


its spot on mate (my attempt at proper english, or mancunian), side walk it is. oh, and the correct spelling is 'curb'.

another one, why is the outside lane of a motorway called that when its on the inside, closest to the center (notice the correct spelling), of the motorway?

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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I get some new fluid in there if it's old. Sounds like it's had it's day.

I had the same issue in France. Bit of new fluid cured it.

big_treacle

Original Poster:

1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Fluid should be new - just had a new clutch & slave - it maybe got knackered from the heat of the manifolds though. Anyway, I'm gonna bleed it and replace it & tie the pipe away from any direct contact with super hot things & see how it goes.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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methodwares said:
[another one, why is the outside lane of a motorway called that when its on the inside, closest to the center (notice the correct spelling), of the motorway?


Because it is! (Technically I guess the lanes start on the left here, each lane to the right would be the outside one...all goes to ratshit when when referring to the central (note correct spelling)reservation)

Oh, and while Im at it, it's centre (so how do you spell central then? )

And its colour

And aluminium is pronounced 'aloo min ium' not 'aloomin um'

If you septics arent happy with the proper spelling, go pinch someone else's language. I hear France is nice this time of year hehe

hbeck

424 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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I would be asking whoever fitted your clutch why they didn't cable the it back where it was in the first place, perhaps you may not be in the position you're in now?

mars

10,107 posts

243 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Since the American continent was populated by English-speaking people, the languages on both sides of the Atlantic have evolved. It is entirely possible that it has changed more on this (British) side. Bill Bryson has a good book about the differences and history behind American vs British English called "Made in America", although it tends towards explaining the American side more.

The etymology of Aluminum/Aluminium is interesting; coined by Sir Humphry Davy in 1812 from Latin (I think) "alum", Davy originally called it alumium, then amended this to aluminum, which is the preference of those in America today.

The British changed it to aluminium so it fell in line with the family of names they had agreed on thus far (e.g. potassium).

I read recently that the English language was the greatest gift Britain gave to the world, therefore like all gifts we can hardly dictate how it is used.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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mars said:
I read recently that the English language was the greatest gift Britain gave to the world,


Nuff said thumbup

c3ber

4,714 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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mars said:
Since the American continent was populated by English-speaking people, the languages on both sides of the Atlantic have evolved. It is entirely possible that it has changed more on this (British) side. Bill Bryson has a good book about the differences and history behind American vs British English called "Made in America", although it tends towards explaining the American side more.

The etymology of Aluminum/Aluminium is interesting; coined by Sir Humphry Davy in 1812 from Latin (I think) "alum", Davy originally called it alumium, then amended this to aluminum, which is the preference of those in America today.

The British changed it to aluminium so it fell in line with the family of names they had agreed on thus far (e.g. potassium).

I read recently that the English language was the greatest gift Britain gave to the world, therefore like all gifts we can hardly dictate how it is used.


Just to get back on track.... its a thread about clutch fluid if my memory serves me right.rolleyes

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

266 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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So after all this...did you find a place to locate the end of the nozzle?

If not then I have found a position to locate it. The bleed pipe and nipple comes directly out the top of the gearbox, loop it over and put the end directly into the small hole in the casing of the gearbox, it's not too far from where the pipe exits the gearbox. It holds in position there quite nicely and is a perfect fit.

The hole is blind and just part of the casting of the bellhousing, probably what it is there for!

Si

methodwares

583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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FUBAR said:
methodwares said:
[another one, why is the outside lane of a motorway called that when its on the inside, closest to the center (notice the correct spelling), of the motorway?


Because it is! (Technically I guess the lanes start on the left here, each lane to the right would be the outside one...all goes to ratshit when when referring to the central (note correct spelling)reservation)

Oh, and while Im at it, it's centre (so how do you spell central then? )

And its colour

And aluminium is pronounced 'aloo min ium' not 'aloomin um'

If you septics arent happy with the proper spelling, go pinch someone else's language. I hear France is nice this time of year hehe


nice

'central', the same as you, though 'center' is spelled how its pronounced, same as 'central'.

'centre' to me is pronounced 'sent-ree'

aluminium, etc, its not the pronuciation as I pronouce it how you do, in america it is spelled different and as such the pronuciation is different.

my brother (who visited a couple of years back) asked about the spelling (colour, honour, etc) and such and I told him (true or not) that all this changed because the normans conquered the isles way back when and they came from france, so all the spellings have been adopted from the french spelling with their superfluous use of vowels. hehe

back to the matter at hand -- my only guess has been the 'outside' lane is to the outside of a right hand drive car, where as the inside is to the inside of said car.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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methodwares said:
I told him (true or not) that all this changed because the normans conquered the isles way back when and they came from france, so all the spellings have been adopted from the french spelling with their superfluous use of vowels. hehe

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ranting HOW DARE YOU!!

The cheek of it! (true or not, that's a BAD thing to intimate)

Oh, and ignore C3BER, he gets grumpy this time of day if he hasnt had his afternoon nap hehe

mars

10,107 posts

243 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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methodwares said:
my brother (who visited a couple of years back) asked about the spelling (colour, honour, etc) and such and I told him (true or not) that all this changed because the normans conquered the isles way back when and they came from france, so all the spellings have been adopted from the french spelling with their superfluous use of vowels. hehe

Funny, but not true. The Normans left long before the British left for the Americas.

In fact, we (British) would have exported "colour" and "honour" as it looks here today, only to have those changed quite deliberately by the chap who authored your/their original dictionary for more obvious (IMO) spellings.

The etymology of "sidewalk" vs "pavement" is probably only a Google away.

Back on topic... how do you Americans spell "clutch" or "bleed nipple"?

Edited by mars on Wednesday 8th November 15:57

methodwares

583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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hehe