Transport, but not cars ... mainly trains in fact
Transport, but not cars ... mainly trains in fact
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tertius

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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A few pics from a Lakes trip a few weeks ago, it rained a lot. Obviously I was trying to achieve a sort of old fashioned look, maybe they should be grainy?



















Graham@Reading

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255 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Is that train platform near a rope museum or factory or something? Looks very familiar, bizarrely enough.

As for aging them, add a bit of noise, sure, but up the contrast and saturation a bit before converting to B&W and try adding a slightly sepia tint to it.

I like all the steam aroudn the engine in the last two, but maybe a crop to exclude the anoraks and modern umbrellas

Edited by Graham@Reading on Wednesday 8th November 16:51

tertius

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Graham@Reading said:
Is that train platform near a rope museum or factory or something? Looks very familiar, bizarrely enough.

As for aging them, add a bit of noise, sure, but up the contrast and saturation a bit before converting to B&W and try adding a slightly sepia tint to it.

I like all the steam aroudn the engine in the last two, but maybe a crop to exclude the anoraks and modern umbrellas

Edited by Graham@Reading on Wednesday 8th November 16:51


Thanks.

Umm, don't think it is (though I could be wrong), its right by the Aquarium of the Lakes, foot of Windermere.

I did up contrast and saturation, but after converting to B&W, I will try other way.

I know what you mean about cropping out the anoraks, but once you've done that you've lost most of the steam ...

beyond rational

3,544 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Which one is your favourite tertius?

tertius

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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beyond rational said:
Which one is your favourite tertius?


My favourite?

Umm, well obviously they are all brilliant ... ... but I think the second one, its very close to being one of the shots I was trying to take: with no obvious modern elements in shot; plenty of steam; the train not quite head on, coming around the bend in the track; the driver's head just visible looking around the cab.

graham@reading

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Ah, not where I thought then.

The second one has had its steam blown out unfortunately. Were these RAW? If so, is the processing you're using able to differentiate between shadow and higlight contrast as you might be able to pull something back from the highlights if so

tertius

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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graham@reading said:

The second one has had its steam blown out unfortunately. Were these RAW? If so, is the processing you're using able to differentiate between shadow and higlight contrast as you might be able to pull something back from the highlights if so


Yes, I have a RAW image, though I have no idea how to do what you are suggesting

Mr Whippy

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Graham@Reading said:
As for aging them, add a bit of noise, sure, but up the contrast and saturation a bit before converting to B&W and try adding a slightly sepia tint to it.


I quite like the way red channel B&W images come out...


Nice pics tertius, nice little steam railway journey that one. The first few shots really do appear to be from back in the day!

Dave

Edited by Mr Whippy on Wednesday 8th November 20:42

dfen5

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242 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Graham@Reading said:
Is that train platform near a rope museum or factory or something? Looks very familiar, bizarrely enough.


Hehe, you can see LAKESIDE on the signal box..

graham@reading

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Wednesday 8th November 2006
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dfen5 said:
Graham@Reading said:
Is that train platform near a rope museum or factory or something? Looks very familiar, bizarrely enough.


Hehe, you can see LAKESIDE on the signal box..


Doh!

My most successful "It's old really, honest" pic complete with the hint of sepia I was on about :



Edited by graham@reading on Wednesday 8th November 21:10

cvp

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305 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Tertius, for me number 2 really has that old feel about it and is my favourite

Chris

Podie

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305 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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I tried something similar at GFoS...



Blurred the image slightly and added some "lens dust"... can't remember exactly what I did in photoshop, but know I wrote it down... somewhere hehe

Podie

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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Blimey... killed this thread... paperbag tumbleweed

Graham@Reading

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Thursday 9th November 2006
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Podie said:
Blimey... killed this thread... paperbag tumbleweed




I wouldn't blur it tbh. There are also some other methods of noise & scratch addition that work quite well too, although they tend to be white based and I quite like the black spots on yours.

In the case of the Pink Lady above, one day I'll take the time out to get rid of the very 80s Cessnas sitting in the background

And straighten it (my eye followed the angle of the bomber's wing which was a bit daft).

I've got another of some guys at Abingdon Air Fayre this year that I overdid. The cop car doesn't help either

Zad

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266 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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That police car is a Sierra and either a LX or XR4x4 2.0 DOHC (more likely not badged)

Here's a tip. Before hitting the desaturate function, reduce the Green and Blue components. Why? Well, when I was about 10 and learning to drive a camera, I used black and white film quite a bit (we had B&W developing and enlarging gear so it made sense). On the shoulderstrap of my dad's old Voigtlander camera there was a little lens hood pouch, which also had a yellow and a red filter. Puzzled at why a camera that was designed in the B&W film years should need colour filters, I asked my dad. He told me to go away and try them

Anyway, to cut a long story short, they darken the green grass and blue sky. It makes clouds and steam train smoke stand out really nicely, and B&W photographers knew that. Most colour photographers don't, so you can tell a photo that has been converted from colour, the grass looks mid grey and the sky just sort of disappears.

tertius

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Friday 10th November 2006
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Zad said:

Here's a tip. Before hitting the desaturate function, reduce the Green and Blue components. Why? Well, when I was about 10 and learning to drive a camera, I used black and white film quite a bit (we had B&W developing and enlarging gear so it made sense). On the shoulderstrap of my dad's old Voigtlander camera there was a little lens hood pouch, which also had a yellow and a red filter. Puzzled at why a camera that was designed in the B&W film years should need colour filters, I asked my dad. He told me to go away and try them

Anyway, to cut a long story short, they darken the green grass and blue sky. It makes clouds and steam train smoke stand out really nicely, and B&W photographers knew that. Most colour photographers don't, so you can tell a photo that has been converted from colour, the grass looks mid grey and the sky just sort of disappears.



Cheers - some more playing called for I think.

Though since I too learned on B&W film and home D&P why I didn't remember it myself ... ah well, it was a long time ago.

fergusd

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300 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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tertius said:
Zad said:

Here's a tip. Before hitting the desaturate function, reduce the Green and Blue components. Why? Well, when I was about 10 and learning to drive a camera, I used black and white film quite a bit (we had B&W developing and enlarging gear so it made sense). On the shoulderstrap of my dad's old Voigtlander camera there was a little lens hood pouch, which also had a yellow and a red filter. Puzzled at why a camera that was designed in the B&W film years should need colour filters, I asked my dad. He told me to go away and try them

Anyway, to cut a long story short, they darken the green grass and blue sky. It makes clouds and steam train smoke stand out really nicely, and B&W photographers knew that. Most colour photographers don't, so you can tell a photo that has been converted from colour, the grass looks mid grey and the sky just sort of disappears.



Cheers - some more playing called for I think.

Though since I too learned on B&W film and home D&P why I didn't remember it myself ... ah well, it was a long time ago.


red and yellow filters increase contrast when used with mono film (red more than yellow) . . . ultimately why you can use the RGB channel mixer in PS/whatever when converting to monochrome, and increase the red component for more contrast ;-)

Fd