4.2 vs 4.5 cerbie
Discussion
I dont want to start any fights, but....
which is the best cerbie to get?
Ive been wanting one for a while but still unsure if the 4.5 is worth the extra, as both will be very fast cars - equally i dont want to get the 4.2 and then wish i had pushed the boat out for the 4.5.
Is the extra price / bhp worth it??
which is the best cerbie to get?
Ive been wanting one for a while but still unsure if the 4.5 is worth the extra, as both will be very fast cars - equally i dont want to get the 4.2 and then wish i had pushed the boat out for the 4.5.
Is the extra price / bhp worth it??
There is a lot of info on here about this subject, they are both stunning cars. If your criteria for buying a Cerb was was that you wanted to go racing, then go for a 4.5, because it has more tuning potential. But for road use they are both very similar. I would say dont go and look specifically for a a 4.2 or a 4.5. Instead go and look for a GOOD one, and buy it regardless of the engine size.
Thanks, I appreciate the help.
I have done research into both and made drawn my own conclusions, thats why I wanted to get some feedback from people that have owned them!
I definitely want a post 1999/2000 model with the revised lights, and only the 4.5 comes in the lightweight guise so it looks like im heading towards the 4.5 for a few reasons.
I have done research into both and made drawn my own conclusions, thats why I wanted to get some feedback from people that have owned them!
I definitely want a post 1999/2000 model with the revised lights, and only the 4.5 comes in the lightweight guise so it looks like im heading towards the 4.5 for a few reasons.
Andyt25 said:
The lightweight 4.5...is there a big dif between that an an regular 4.5 as far as performance goes.
Not really.
The amount of power/torque the car has will determine which is quicker and due to each Cerb having a slghtly different engine you tend to see diferent outputs, this can range from as low as 320bhp (both 4.2 and 4.5) upto 370bhp for a good Red Rose Cerb. The 4.5 can be tuned and can easily push 400bhp and beyond, this is where the 4.5 has an advantage over the 4.2, but then that's only applicable if the potential owner wants more power.
I've owned both a 4.2 and 4.5 and as standard prefer the 4.5, but there is not a great deal in it, now that my Cerb has more than 400bhp it is just in another league but only from a performance perspective. As has been said earlier on, if you are in the market for a Cerb then write down exactly what you want from it and then view the Cerbs that fit most of the boxes you have ticked, buying one that is mechanically sound is the wisest recommendation I can make, there is no such thing as a "perfect" Cerb when it comes to buying as sooner or later into ownership you will need to apply some TLC and ££££'s, so buying one that has had a lot of recent mechanical replacements / upgrades is a good start into ownership.
Jules.
Cyclone1 said:
Andyt25 said:
The lightweight 4.5...is there a big dif between that an an regular 4.5 as far as performance goes.
Not really.
The amount of power/torque the car has will determine which is quicker and due to each Cerb having a slghtly different engine you tend to see diferent outputs, this can range from as low as 320bhp (both 4.2 and 4.5) upto 370bhp for a good Red Rose Cerb. The 4.5 can be tuned and can easily push 400bhp and beyond, this is where the 4.5 has an advantage over the 4.2, but then that's only applicable if the potential owner wants more power.
I've owned both a 4.2 and 4.5 and as standard prefer the 4.5, but there is not a great deal in it, now that my Cerb has more than 400bhp it is just in another league but only from a performance perspective. As has been said earlier on, if you are in the market for a Cerb then write down exactly what you want from it and then view the Cerbs that fit most of the boxes you have ticked, buying one that is mechanically sound is the wisest recommendation I can make, there is no such thing as a "perfect" Cerb when it comes to buying as sooner or later into ownership you will need to apply some TLC and ££££'s, so buying one that has had a lot of recent mechanical replacements / upgrades is a good start into ownership.
Jules.
I think thats a fairly accurate post Jules. From my own point of view I wanted a car I could keep for a few years and continue to improve (suspension BHP etc) so went for a 4.5. I'd of thought that most owners would like to increase power (or is it just me) Jules is totally right about there not being a perfect Cerb. You will end up spending money on it (if not on repairs then 'presents' to yourself (AKA upgrades)
Gareth
the machine said:
Thanks, I appreciate the help.
I have done research into both and made drawn my own conclusions, thats why I wanted to get some feedback from people that have owned them!
I definitely want a post 1999/2000 model with the revised lights, and only the 4.5 comes in the lightweight guise so it looks like im heading towards the 4.5 for a few reasons.
I have done research into both and made drawn my own conclusions, thats why I wanted to get some feedback from people that have owned them!
I definitely want a post 1999/2000 model with the revised lights, and only the 4.5 comes in the lightweight guise so it looks like im heading towards the 4.5 for a few reasons.
Hope you have seen this one www.pistonheads.com/sales/104634.htm , ok so not a lightweight but one of the best sorted Cerbs for sale at the moment. Must be worth a look!
I wanted a black one with latest lights .. ideally 4.5 for "nob size conversations" found it ... liked it baught it ...
it had good history had been looked after well but is a 4.2 .. on driving it found it had plenty of power for the road!
In reality I havent driven another to compare - the rolling road day proved its power was up with the pack and im still happy!
I must be a tart as looks for me out weighs performance issues!
My next load of upgrades are interior colour change!
Good luck in your quest ... DAS
it had good history had been looked after well but is a 4.2 .. on driving it found it had plenty of power for the road!
In reality I havent driven another to compare - the rolling road day proved its power was up with the pack and im still happy!
I must be a tart as looks for me out weighs performance issues!
My next load of upgrades are interior colour change!
Good luck in your quest ... DAS
softtop said:
BCA said:
The other thing going for the 4.5 is the crank issue that effected the earlier 4.2s.
I thought that was all sorted by 1998
it was, even a year earlier, the bad crank issue was sorted with the '97 cars, there have been a few early 97's going snap, but generaly it was the early cars that suffered, that said anything with 30k plus on the clock will more than likely be ok, it was only a bad batch and not everyone. But if you're into engine breaking out of high speed corners and drive it like a
then it doesn't matter what you have it's only a matter of time before the wallet hurt starts. That doesn't mean you can't cane the thing just use some sense and ensure you do the usuals, warm up etc. 4.2 are easier in traffic and around town, smoother when set up properly and an adequate 340+ hp as standard.
4.5 is more tunable and nearer the 360 hp mark in normal state.
both superb, horses for courses, but as said prev. buy on overall condition and check the owner out, if he's one of the looney's in here, then you should be ok...if not then i suggest you take one of us window lickers with you. or send it into a decent indie for a check-out.
all IMO,
good luck
Cooky
NOT
hbeck said:
[quote=the machine]
Hope you have seen this one www.pistonheads.com/sales/104634.htm , ok so not a lightweight but one of the best sorted Cerbs for sale at the moment. Must be worth a look!
Hope you have seen this one www.pistonheads.com/sales/104634.htm , ok so not a lightweight but one of the best sorted Cerbs for sale at the moment. Must be worth a look!
You have good taste, that's one gorgeous Cerb.............
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