Road Signs
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rmhodv

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Wednesday 15th November 2006
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Can anyone help me. Do you know of any law that says that where you have chevrons it is a lawful requirement to display a bend sign before hand or/and have SLOW written in the road.











Edited by rmhodv on Wednesday 15th November 09:50

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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No requirement in law exists.

rmhodv

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Wednesday 15th November 2006
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7db said:
No requirement in law exists.


Never mind. Had an accident last year still going on. As I travelled down a B road I came off the road and wrote my car off. There was a chevron sign, but this could not be seen due to it being covered by bushes. The local authority are saying that they check all road signs on a monthly basis, but I argue the the bushes had grown over 1 foot passed the top of the sign, therefore even if they had checked the sign a month earlier then the sign still could not had been seen. Any advice welcome.

JP_Midget

438 posts

241 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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I believe that SLOW is only written when there has been an accident at that spot (possibly serious?). If more accidents occur, more signage goes up.

I doubt there is any law as there doesn’t seem to be any consistency to the placing of signs like these, which makes it more dangerous in my opinion.

I'd be interested to find out from someone who knows though. - Thanks 7db!

J

Edited by JP_Midget on Wednesday 15th November 10:29

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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So, this means that road signs (and being able to spot them) are an important part of driving...hmmmm.... (points at this from another thread...).

Can think of a few places where there are chevrons and no slow / bend - suppose a lot of roundabouts even.

Were you driving at a speed which allowed you to see as far ahead as you would need to stop? If not, although a nudge in the councils direction might not go amiss, and might help somebody in the future, I don't think they'll be seen as having done anything negligent - no more than you at least.

mattyboy101

16,664 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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My Dad was told on a course that where an accident occurs, the LA must do something to avoid an accident there in future, and the cheapest solution is to write SLOW on the road.

vim fuego

2,423 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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rmhodv said:
7db said:
No requirement in law exists.


Never mind. Had an accident last year still going on. As I travelled down a B road I came off the road and wrote my car off. There was a chevron sign, but this could not be seen due to it being covered by bushes. The local authority are saying that they check all road signs on a monthly basis, but I argue the the bushes had grown over 1 foot passed the top of the sign, therefore even if they had checked the sign a month earlier then the sign still could not had been seen. Any advice welcome.


you've got a pm on the subject

rmhodv

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vim fuego said:
rmhodv said:
7db said:
No requirement in law exists.


Never mind. Had an accident last year still going on. As I travelled down a B road I came off the road and wrote my car off. There was a chevron sign, but this could not be seen due to it being covered by bushes. The local authority are saying that they check all road signs on a monthly basis, but I argue the the bushes had grown over 1 foot passed the top of the sign, therefore even if they had checked the sign a month earlier then the sign still could not had been seen. Any advice welcome.


you've got a pm on the subject



Sorry, excuse my ignorance, but what's a pm

mattyboy101

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Private message/email on here

rmhodv

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mattyboy101 said:
Private message/email on here


Cheers mattyboy.

vim fuego, I'll have to look at the email tonight, as I can't access personal email at work.

7db

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260 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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The LA/HA can be held liable if they improperly maintain / sign the road, and as a result damage is sustained AND the are aware of the issue and reasonably expected to do something.

In the case in the OP, I can't see an immediate strong claim, unlike where they have been informed of a bad bit of road, and after a reasonable time neither sign nor repair it and there is an accident.

Rumours abound that each warning sign on approach to a hazard is a tombstone - add one per fatal until they stop killing themselves there.

supermono

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278 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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7db said:

Rumours abound that each warning sign on approach to a hazard is a tombstone - add one per fatal until they stop killing themselves there.

What about when people start getting killed crashing into signposts?

SM

mattyboy101

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tvrgit

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JP_Midget said:
I believe that SLOW is only written when there has been an accident at that spot (possibly serious?). If more accidents occur, more signage goes up.

I doubt there is any law as there doesn’t seem to be any consistency to the placing of signs like these, which makes it more dangerous in my opinion.

I'd be interested to find out from someone who knows though. - Thanks 7db!

J

Nope, "SLOW" on road is not related in the manual to accidents - neither is placement / number of signs. However most local authorities will try to make a bend, say, more and more obvious, first with a sign, then maybe "slow", then maybe chevrons, then maybe a bigger sign, if the myopic or terminally stupid persist in chucking themselves into the scenery there.

There is no legal requirement for them to do so, but they will, usually.