News from the World of Speedtraps
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In an article entitled "Time to call off Labour's war on the motorist", Tim Collins MP, Shadow Secretary of State for Transport describes Labour's failed transport policy as "monumental, spectacular, cack-handed incompetence." He goes on to say that "Nowhere is Labour's underlying socialist bigotry against the individual more evident than in their almost pathological hatred of the motorist." Maybe the Conservatives offer a glimmer of hope for us after all.
However at the other end of the spectrum, Transport 2000 are up to their usual tricks. This time it's yellow speed cameras.
Transport 2000 have annouced that lawyers representing themselves and the Slower Speeds Initiative (piss off) will appear in the Royal Courts of Justice in The Strand, London, at 10.30am tomorrow (Thursday 20 March 2003). Unfortunately they are not being charged with anything - they are seeking to overturn Government guidance that came into force in June 2002 that requires all fixed speed cameras in safety camera partnership areas to be painted yellow and sited conspicuously. Their press briefing goes on to denounce the Association of British Drivers as a "highly irresponsible" organisation. Yawn.
Distiguished supporters of T2000's High Court Challenge include David Williams MBE, Chief Executive of the "Guild of Experienced Motorists" and Ian Roberts, Professor of Public Health, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (Eh?)
Incidentally our friends at the Guild of Experienced Motorists are having a poll:
"Given that on most roads throughout the world, it is illegal to exceed a maximum speed of 70-85mph, should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to produce cars with a top speed in excess of 100mph?"
60% of voters say no (so far
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>>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Wednesday 19th March 22:31
However at the other end of the spectrum, Transport 2000 are up to their usual tricks. This time it's yellow speed cameras.
Transport 2000 have annouced that lawyers representing themselves and the Slower Speeds Initiative (piss off) will appear in the Royal Courts of Justice in The Strand, London, at 10.30am tomorrow (Thursday 20 March 2003). Unfortunately they are not being charged with anything - they are seeking to overturn Government guidance that came into force in June 2002 that requires all fixed speed cameras in safety camera partnership areas to be painted yellow and sited conspicuously. Their press briefing goes on to denounce the Association of British Drivers as a "highly irresponsible" organisation. Yawn.
Distiguished supporters of T2000's High Court Challenge include David Williams MBE, Chief Executive of the "Guild of Experienced Motorists" and Ian Roberts, Professor of Public Health, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (Eh?)
Incidentally our friends at the Guild of Experienced Motorists are having a poll:
"Given that on most roads throughout the world, it is illegal to exceed a maximum speed of 70-85mph, should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to produce cars with a top speed in excess of 100mph?"
60% of voters say no (so far
) >>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Wednesday 19th March 22:31
OK. If this guy as my MP i'd vote for him in a hot second. Simple as that.
IDS: Time to start telling Britain's motorists what's what. And fcuk the lentilists, sandalistas etc.
We all want a greener, better world. Start doing something about it, instead of bleating on about how the car is evil. Get us a better car, for fcuk's sake....
IDS: Time to start telling Britain's motorists what's what. And fcuk the lentilists, sandalistas etc.
We all want a greener, better world. Start doing something about it, instead of bleating on about how the car is evil. Get us a better car, for fcuk's sake....
However at the other end of the spectrum, Transport 2000 are up to their usual tricks. This time it's [url]yellow speed cameras
Transport 2000 have annouced that lawyers representing themselves and the Slower Speeds Initiative (piss off) will appear in the Royal Courts of Justice in The Strand, London, at 10.30am tomorrow (Thursday 20 March 2003). Unfortunately they are not being charged with anything - they are seeking to overturn Government guidance that came into force in June 2002 that requires all fixed speed cameras in safety camera partnership areas to be painted yellow and sited conspicuously. Their press briefing goes on to denounce the Association of British Drivers as a "highly irresponsible" organisation. Yawn.
Distiguished supporters of T2000's High Court Challenge include David Williams MBE, Chief Executive of the "Guild of Experienced Motorists" and Ian Roberts, Professor of Public Health, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (Eh?)
If you obtain a copy of Transport2000's annual report (as I have) you will know that the organisation is predominently funded by public transport companies, the Transport Unions, and local councils.
If these people used thier energy and money on efforts to get the Circle line working again, getting the trains to run on time, or trying to stop buses smelling of old people's piss then perhaps we really would have better public transport and actually want to use it.
Mounting legal attacks like this is a waste of public (i.e. OUR) money, and just reaffirms them as a bunch of lentilists, supported by companies and groups with a vested interest in driving the motorist off the road.
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Slower speeds & T200o are ignorant c**ts. They won't reply to my emails, so WTF are they supposed to be representing? I'm gonna beat the living shit out of the first twat who claims to be a T2000 follower. Maybe not immediately, but I'll sort 'em. I have a long memory. Scumbags all of them, gutless, pathetic, pedantic, moronic unskilled drivers who must not be allowed to force their wapred opions on those of us who take pride in being decent citizens, and decent drivers to boot. Christ, I almost hope this country goes up in a nuclear fireball. Atleast Mad Max had some fun in post apocalyptic Oz......
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If you obtain a copy of Transport2000's annual report (as I have) you will know that the organisation is predominently funded by public transport companies, the Transport Unions, and local councils.
Indeed. In a recent television interview the chairman of the Association of Train Operating Companies admitted rail travel was in direct competition with car usage and only had 7 - 8% of the market share. If people won't willingly use public transport it easy to see why they employ subversive methods to get more "customers."
If these people used thier energy and money on efforts...trying to stop buses smelling of old people's piss then perhaps we really would have better public transport and actually want to use it.
Maybe this is where our friend from the London School of Hygiene can help out.
Mounting legal attacks like this is a waste of public (i.e. OUR) money, and just reaffirms them as a bunch of lentilists, supported by companies and groups with a vested interest in driving the motorist off the road.
Looks like they have succeeded in making the Government set up trials to compare the effectiveness of covert cameras vs conspicuous cameras. zzzz
Christ, I almost hope this country goes up in a nuclear fireball. Atleast Mad Max had some fun in post apocalyptic Oz
Yes! There would certainly be plenty of scores to settle.
It may be interesting to know that at the time I requested the report, I also specifically requested (from Steve Townsham) some basinc information as to how many actual card-carrying, paid for members of the public were members of his organisation.
I got no information on that point, and the annual report, whilst making a few references to some 'local action groups' says nothing about it either. My conclusion, in the absence of any other infomation, is that a 'local action group' could be as small as a single person.
However the list of organisations who donate funds to T2000 is very substantial. I posted the details who who these organisation were about 6 months ago (but can't find the link now) but essentially they are all Public Transport companies, Unions and Local Councils as I said before.
What I find totally unacceptable and distasteful is that all these groups are using our tax money either in the form of direct Public subsidies, donations from salaries paid from public funds, Council Taxes and so on, to invest in pressure groups like T2000, who proclaim themselves as "independant" pressure groups.
If they really do represent a body of public opinion, then T2000 should ditch these donating public bodies, announce thier independance, but most importantly go out and get a membership who are prepared to be active and donate funds to the cause
If T2000 can demonstrate that they have a substansive public membership then they can also assume the title of a pressure group. They make a lot of noise because they have a lot of money, have organisation, and are apt at getting themselves quoted in the press, but with relatively few members of the public actually involved, all you are left with is a propaganda machine fuelled by money from vested corporate interests...
2p spent, I'm reaching for my coat now...
I got no information on that point, and the annual report, whilst making a few references to some 'local action groups' says nothing about it either. My conclusion, in the absence of any other infomation, is that a 'local action group' could be as small as a single person.
However the list of organisations who donate funds to T2000 is very substantial. I posted the details who who these organisation were about 6 months ago (but can't find the link now) but essentially they are all Public Transport companies, Unions and Local Councils as I said before.
What I find totally unacceptable and distasteful is that all these groups are using our tax money either in the form of direct Public subsidies, donations from salaries paid from public funds, Council Taxes and so on, to invest in pressure groups like T2000, who proclaim themselves as "independant" pressure groups.
If they really do represent a body of public opinion, then T2000 should ditch these donating public bodies, announce thier independance, but most importantly go out and get a membership who are prepared to be active and donate funds to the cause
If T2000 can demonstrate that they have a substansive public membership then they can also assume the title of a pressure group. They make a lot of noise because they have a lot of money, have organisation, and are apt at getting themselves quoted in the press, but with relatively few members of the public actually involved, all you are left with is a propaganda machine fuelled by money from vested corporate interests...
2p spent, I'm reaching for my coat now...
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