Cayenne V6 - Why?

[futie]

Just had one of these on loan .. I can't think of a single thing which makes it a Porsche .. godawful thing. Mind you, the other half liked it though!

[Ballcock]

Well if she likes it , it'd cost you shed loads less than an x5 of the same year .. That's about the most positive thing you can say bout em really!!

[sportsandclassic]

Yes why ?

The v6 engine is from a R32 golf which weighs nothing so lets put that in 2 tons of sh!t and sell it to the world as a V6 cayenne ......

utter crap in my opinion..

mike

Edited by sportsandclassic on Friday 17th November 23:17

[adam b]

futie said:

Just had one of these on loan .. I can't think of a single thing which makes it a Porsche ..

I can - the length and prices of the option list

[w1how]

I had one as a loan car a few months ago-truly awful.Didnt know it was the same engine as the r32.I have an r32 and would never have guessed.The v6 cayenne is the most pointless car porshe makes.

[Dr S]

Which is a big achievement as the Cayenne is already utterly pointless in general

[Geneve]

Dr S said:

Which is a big achievement as the Cayenne is already utterly pointless in general

The Cayenne is not completely pointless - from a commercial perspective, it represents about 45% of Porsche's total sales

Now I've driven several, including the driving experience, 'on road' / 'off road' / 'on track', and for a 2-tonne truck it is very capable. But I despise it for being such a big ugly brute that is completely at odds with Porsche's sporting products.

I suppose we just have to accept that the profits it contributes enables Porsche to remain independent and for us to enjoy the likes of the Carrera GT, GT3, GT2, etc.

[ED965]

Geneve said:

Dr S said:

Which is a big achievement as the Cayenne is already utterly pointless in general

The Cayenne is not completely pointless - from a commercial perspective, it represents about 45% of Porsche's total sales

Now I've driven several, including the driving experience, 'on road' / 'off road' / 'on track', and for a 2-tonne truck it is very capable. But I despise it for being such a big ugly brute that is completely at odds with Porsche's sporting products.

I suppose we just have to accept that the profits it contributes enables Porsche to remain independent and for us to enjoy the likes of the Carrera GT, GT3, GT2, etc.

As stated its 45% of sales so its a commercial winner, we have to accept it that these days all niche manufacturers have to become mainstream to survive, and Porsche are one the most profitable outfits out there simple as that, good luck to them i say. I'm sure the boardroom ain't worried about the rants & raves of the 3.2 cayenne. By the way i haven't got one!

[futie]

Geneve said:

.. and for a 2-tonne truck it is very capable..

Wow, really? It felt very stiffly sprung to me; would have thought that was at odds with offroad ability?

Geneve said:

I suppose we just have to accept that the profits it contributes enables Porsche to remain independent and for us to enjoy the likes of the Carrera GT, GT3, GT2, etc.

Yep, I think that's the point isn't it! Anyone seen this one? (£140K!!):

[xxplod]

My OPC gave me one as a courtesy car. Dynamically they are very good for a 4x4, but that's about all you can say for them. I did ask if they could lend me a Boxster but they couldn't so I had to drive around in this pig ugly thing with blacked out windows to boot and pretend to be a drug dealer.

[henry-f]

As a car the Cayenne is a great all rounder. As a variant the V6 is a tad wheezy

V6 will keep the missus happy, just go steady on the options list.

V8 great all rounder.

Turbo will amaze you.

Henry

[ED965]

henry-f said:

As a car the Cayenne is a great all rounder. As a variant the V6 is a tad wheezy

V6 will keep the missus happy, just go steady on the options list.

V8 great all rounder.

Turbo will amaze you.

Henry

here here, agree with Henry. Keep the 3.2 for the "school run"

[hot pepper]

Can't really understand the reasoning behind the V6 other than it must make them money.

The Turbo on the other hand is a stunning car.

[Dr S]

Agree that a) it makes shedloads of money and b) that we who like sportscars as opposed to mere sporty cars are a minority. Why don't they up the Cayenne prices even further and fund with that money extended specs (eg LSD) on the Carrera's...

[Don]

xxplod said:

My OPC gave me one as a courtesy car. Dynamically they are very good for a 4x4, but that's about all you can say for them. I did ask if they could lend me a Boxster but they couldn't so I had to drive around in this pig ugly thing with blacked out windows to boot and pretend to be a drug dealer.

Was that the one from Guildford? I had that car, wrote a review (wasn't complimentary). My comments engendered quite a response IIRC.

I have no doubt that the Cayenne is superbly made, highly competent off road, capable on road and able to carry a family of five in comfort with all their luggage. During which time I expect it will consume an inordinate quantity of fuel.

I, however, have no need for one and would buy a Volvo Estate to do the same work - apart from the off-road bit, of course. If I really wanted to do some off roading I would purchase alongside the Volvo a Landy of some description.

There again - if they depreciate to the point where they become an economic proposition for a dump-trip-everyday vehicle I reckon it would be perfectly good. I wouldn't put £45K down on one, mind.

Horses for courses: some people want/need what the Cayenne does and don't want a Range Rover. Or prefer a car that's off/road/on/road compromise is tilted the way the Cayenne's is.

[xxplod]

It was from Guildford. Who I should add have been absolutely superb in every respect, genuinely a pleasure to deal with.
Surprisingly I found the economy OK, I got about 25mpg.
Agreed, not really a Porsche, (buy the same vehicle with a VW badge and save loads) and I certainly wouldn't part with my cash for one, but I guess they make "sense" of sorts to some people.
Each to their own.

[968csreading]

I have driven a V8 and thought it was excellent for an SUV. Women love them and that is why they clog up the roads doing the school run.

I reckon they are a good second hand buy. Rather have a Range Rover Sport though.

[paracetamol]

Tony Soprano's (Sopranos) wife driving a gold one summed it up for me..

[loach]

Geneve said:

I suppose we just have to accept that the profits it contributes enables Porsche to remain independent and for us to enjoy the likes of the Carrera GT, GT3, GT2, etc.

Agree with your view of the Cayenne as a driving experience. It drives far better than any huge 4x4 has a right to, though that it manages to do so whilst looking like a pig's breakfast sort of evens the odds. Just wanted to add that I think the Boxster gave the financial boost to Porsche you were quoting above, though I suspect you could partly credit the 996 for lending the Boxster all of its parts so that the roadster could get put into production for at a higher profit per unit than would have been otherwise possible. It was the Cayenne - kindly developed for Porsche by VW - that allowed Wiedeking to get new factories built, put away huge cash reserves, buy huge chunks of Volkswagen and practice his boardroom MUUAAAH-HA-HAs. The Carrera GT made money - it was a standalone model beholden to nothing else other than profit for its existence. Likewise the GT3/GT2 models. Porsche will make money on those. It'd be nice to think they are produced as loss-making halo products for vocal enthusiasts that just won't shut up about irrelevancies like heritage, but this is Porsche we're talking about. As an aside; I've heard that Wendelin Wiedeking translated into English, reads 'Michael O'Leary'.