Parking right behind a Talivan?
Parking right behind a Talivan?
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ec2

Original Poster:

1,547 posts

283 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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I've seen the odd Talivan parked in a postion where it would be perfectly legal to park right behind them (in a big 4*4). Anyone tried it yet?

madleee

720 posts

241 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Are you obstructing the course of justice?

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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No problem with that, but might be obstructing an officer in the execution of his duty.

ec2

Original Poster:

1,547 posts

283 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Are they police officers though?

eccles

14,401 posts

252 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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logic would suggest the talivan should park at the end of the lay-by nearest the traffic he's zapping so no one can park in front of them.
if its illegal to park in front of them and the van is at the front of the lay-by, they should be made to put a few cones down to shut the rest of the lay-by.

Goochie

5,800 posts

249 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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I friend of mine parked his P1 behind a camera van in Scotland and was politely asked to move on.

jasandjules

72,630 posts

259 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Goochie said:
I friend of mine parked his P1 behind a camera van in Scotland and was politely asked to move on.


The question is whether or not he is obliged to.

If you are entitled to park in a parking bay.............

Goochie

5,800 posts

249 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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I think that you'd be in troubl eif knowingly obstructing the van. Once the officer has asked you to move and told you the reason you're aware of what you're doing and they'll try and get you for it.

There is no escape

flemke

23,506 posts

267 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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ec2 said:
Are they police officers though?
Indeed, is a police officer who is working in a camera van whilst off-duty still an officer?

Raify

6,556 posts

278 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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I'm sure I remember a thread a while ago about someone getting prosecuted for parking next to a Talivan. P155 was boiled then too.. Can't find the thread though.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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It would depend on why your parking there i would suggest. As for obstruction most forces use civilians but I believe you can still commit an offence of obstruction upon them beacause of the 'enforcement' role they carry out. Von is probably more up on this to be honest.
A police officer operating the camera would be on duty as it would be part of the duty time or as overtime funded by the partnership.

Personaly I just would not advise it as it would probaby result in normal officers being called and then no doubt go up from there.

havoc

33,482 posts

265 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Goochie said:
I think that you'd be in troubl eif knowingly obstructing the van. Once the officer has asked you to move and told you the reason you're aware of what you're doing and they'll try and get you for it.

There is no escape

Sadly true. But what if you've stopped at the parking because you NEED to (car overheating, warning light come on, funny noise coming from front-wheel, etc.)? Do the police have a right to move you on without you having a chance to inspect your car?

flemke

23,506 posts

267 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
It would depend on why your parking there i would suggest. As for obstruction most forces use civilians but I believe you can still commit an offence of obstruction upon them beacause of the 'enforcement' role they carry out. Von is probably more up on this to be honest.
A police officer operating the camera would be on duty as it would be part of the duty time or as overtime funded by the partnership.

Personaly I just would not advise it as it would probaby result in normal officers being called and then no doubt go up from there.
The official reaction would probably depend on what the miscreant was blocking.
If the miscreant's vehicle were blocking the laser beam, no doubt he would be required to move on.
If, however, the vehicle were partially blocking oncoming drivers' view of the van, the miscreant would be offered coffee and donuts and invited to park there full-time.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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flemke said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
It would depend on why your parking there i would suggest. As for obstruction most forces use civilians but I believe you can still commit an offence of obstruction upon them beacause of the 'enforcement' role they carry out. Von is probably more up on this to be honest.
A police officer operating the camera would be on duty as it would be part of the duty time or as overtime funded by the partnership.

Personaly I just would not advise it as it would probaby result in normal officers being called and then no doubt go up from there.
The official reaction would probably depend on what the miscreant was blocking.
If the miscreant's vehicle were blocking the laser beam, no doubt he would be required to move on.
If, however, the vehicle were partially blocking oncoming drivers' view of the van, the miscreant would be offered coffee and donuts and invited to park there full-time.

Have one of these : rofl

So cynical, and yet, so true..

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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flemke said:
ec2 said:
Are they police officers though?
Indeed, is a police officer who is working in a camera van whilst off-duty still an officer?


Who knows. They are worthless, parasitic losers though.

PJS917

1,194 posts

278 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Totally leagal to park behind a scamera van as long as it is a not a Policeman operating it. Equally leagal to stand in front of a resident with a speed gun.
Also worth asking the camera operator questions, like is he proud of his job?, does he realise how much harm he is doing to road safety?, ask such questions as how many dangerous drivers or illeagal cars he has caught? etc.....

gopher

5,160 posts

289 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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There was a post some time ago about a lorry driver that had come to the end of his permitable time behind the wheel and parked up behind a scammer and blocked his view of the road. Of course the parasite could not ask him to move on because the driver would be breaking the law if he did.

It made for an interesting (and very amusing) story that came from a letter published in a trucking publication IIRC

bimsb6

8,795 posts

251 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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i have parked in their view before in my bt van ,stick the beacon on and pretend to work,they usually give up and move on .hehehe

jasandjules

72,630 posts

259 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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What if you get tired? I mean, safer to stop and rest rather than drive on, wouldn't you agree? So, pull in to that nice layby and have a snack/coffee/rest to make sure you are awake enough to continue on.....

puggit

49,821 posts

278 months

Monday 20th November 2006
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Raify said:
I'm sure I remember a thread a while ago about someone getting prosecuted for parking next to a Talivan. P155 was boiled then too.. Can't find the thread though.
Yep, I posted it.

The parking space used was a private space outside a shop - the shopkeeper came out in court on the side of the person parking and so the police lost