Speed Cameras - High Court Verdict
Speed Cameras - High Court Verdict
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mad jock

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1,272 posts

283 months

Friday 21st March 2003
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Once again, a pressure group has managed to use rhetoric to overturn common sense.
If a driver travelling at 100mph (dangerous) sees a bright yellow speed camera, he is likely to slow down, and hence no longer be dangerous.
If, however, he never sees the camera, never sees the flash, he will continue on his merry way, dangerously.
How the fcuk can Transport 2000 not see this anomaly in their argument. It would seem that they would rather catch a speeder rather than prevent the speeding in the first place.
I always thought that crime prevention was better than catching the criminal after the fact.

Don

28,378 posts

305 months

Friday 21st March 2003
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Transport 2000 are funded by bus and rail companies.

Their one goal is to make using your car so unpleasant, difficult or illegal that you will give up and use one of their filthy oil-burning countryside befouling environmentally unfriendly s**tboxes instead so they can turn a profit.

They are pure evil.

Well...my argument is that public transport should be utilised where its efficient and reduces the fossil fuels we burn by carrying more people for the given quantity burned. This happens on busy commuter routes...and is an excellent idea.

Its environmentally unsound to use a bus to carry three passengers from one rural village to another.

This cameras business is nothing to do with road safety (which is a shame because they could be used for that) and is everything to do with T2000 assisting its evil sponsors in making money.

They can **** off. (Its becoming a bit of trade mark phrase that...oh dear)

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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This wasn't a "High Court Verdict" lads.

They withdrew their case before it was heard in Court, after the Transport Minister agreed that covert cameras can be used if police first get permission from his department.

Vicky Cann, assistant director of Transport 2000, said "This now opens the door for covert enforcement with fixed cameras. This will mean that drivers will no longer be able to assume, even if they cannot see a speed camera, that there is no longer one there."

John Spellar (Transport Minister) said "I am very pleased that Transport 2000 and the Slower Speeds Initiative have decided to withdraw their application for judicial review. It is a shame that their action has meant we have had to waste time and taxpayers' money in defending our policy."

Looks as though he too views them as a pain in the arse.



voyds9

8,490 posts

304 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Let me get this right
Law says cameras must be visible
Government minister says its ok to have covert cameras with his permission

MINISTER CLAIMS TO BE ABOVE THE LAW!!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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No, it's not law. Just a rule that Scamera partnerships must observe, failing which they can lose their status as beneficiaries of the fine booty.

Blunkett imposed this to "prove" that it's not a tax raising exercise. Ha.

swilly

9,699 posts

295 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Don't see what the problem is considering the police and scamera operators are currently trained by the SAS in the use of camoflauge, and seek-and-destroy missions.

Mark Benson

8,261 posts

290 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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John Spellar (Transport Minister) meant but couldn't say "I am very pleased that Transport 2000 and the Slower Speeds Initiative have decided to withdraw their application for judicial review. It means we can continue scamming motorists and can now hide cameras again so that revenue is protected. A court case may have gone against T2000 should the judge have been compus mentus enough to have seen through their propoganda and we may have seen the legal basis for continuing our scam eroded."

Vicky Cann, assistant director of Transport 2000, said "This now opens the door for covert enforcement with fixed cameras. This will mean that drivers will no longer be able to assume, even if they cannot see a speed camera, that there is no longer one there. Today the UK, tomorrow the world! Bwoahahahaha!"

Mad Dawg

103 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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visible or not, my goedesy knows where they are...