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monty_python

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358 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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For the sake of discussion , let's just say that in a short while i'll be receiving roughly 15 grand that i'll spend on a car (bare in mind i'm 17 and live in a rural area of northern france but regularly commute to england aswell so motorway driving is as important as country lane driving).

Insurance costs are not an issue so don't go saying "bla bla bla insurance ... bla bla bla nissan micra ..."

I've got some cars in mind , but i would like the opinion of PHers on this.
My list is as follows :

Mitsubishi Evo 6 (you all know why)

TVR Chimaera 4.5 (love the looks but i fear i will kill myself)

Jaguar XJR ( very thirsty)

Land Rover (may want to go offroading)

Cobra replica (have wanted one since i was 8)

BMW 540i OR 740i (they look cool especially the 7)

Caterham or Westfield (great performance but not too practical when it snows)

Escort Cosworth (Cos im a hooligan)

BMW Z3M Cabriolet (not sure if i'll find a good one for 15 grand tho)


So what say you ???

Bodo

12,624 posts

297 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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French or British insurance?

monty_python

Original Poster:

358 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Bodo said: French or British insurance?


doesn't matter , im asking about the cars.

oggs

8,817 posts

285 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Out of them .......... go with the landy for a first motor. IMO

smeagol

1,947 posts

315 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Ahh so this is the famous insurance scam/solution mentioned in

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=22217&f=30&h=0

Not sure France insurance companies are that cheap either for a 17yo sports car. Before deciding I would get quotes for all of them to help you decide. How much money have you got for servicing etc.

Bodo

12,624 posts

297 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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monty_python said:

Bodo said: French or British insurance?


doesn't matter , im asking about the cars.



If it's only about cars, I agree with the Landrover (90/110 that is) as a first car. I had Landrovers for the first six years of my license, and I never made an accident with them, nor did they caught me speeding

monty_python

Original Poster:

358 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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smeagol said: Ahh so this is the famous insurance scam/solution mentioned in

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=22217&f=30&h=0

Not sure France insurance companies are that cheap either for a 17yo sports car. Before deciding I would get quotes for all of them to help you decide. How much money have you got for servicing etc.


Yes it is actually ,

but when i said "doesn't matter im asking about the cars" i was trying to say never mind the fcuking insurance !
So what would you go for ?



edited to say that the 3 grand has been turned into fifteen grandand insurance is still not a problem. So please only reply to this thread if you have an opinion of which car to get. Don't bother if you're just gonna say "what about insurance...".



>> Edited by monty_python on Saturday 22 March 16:47

julianhj

8,871 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Well worth starting out with something sedate and working your way up. No disrespect intended, but no matter how good a driver you are, jumping straight into a 200 - 300 bhp car with zero experience is a recipe for disaster.

Insurance is all based on statistics -

Inexperienced driver plus Powerful car = Very Large Risk.

Hence premiums are placed unrealistically high for this group.

Besides, some of my best driving experiences have been in my first car (Fiesta). It doesn't have to be brutally fast to be fun.

robp

5,823 posts

295 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.

So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR

Go with the heart....

PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)

monty_python

Original Poster:

358 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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robp said: Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.

So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR

Go with the heart....

PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)


This is the kind of answer i've been expecting from PHers ! !
Even if he did ask about the insurance ! ! ! ! !

robp

5,823 posts

295 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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monty_python said:

robp said: Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.

So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR

Go with the heart....

PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)


This is the kind of answer i've been expecting from PHers ! !
Even if he did ask about the insurance ! ! ! ! !




So go on, whats your preference?
You must have a thought in the back of your mind which are your favourites????......

Supercharged

102 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Unless you've got some sort of motorsport experience or something I wouldn't recommend any of those cars apart from maybe the Land Rover...

They're all very powerful and if you lack experience you'll probabaly just end up stuffing it into a hedge/ditch

I'm sure you'll say you'll take it steady the fact is unless you're one in a million you won't and then you'll be putting not only your life, but others at risk!

tailslider

271 posts

292 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Face it - you won't get insured on any of them. Your 17. Hello McFly!

monty_python

Original Poster:

358 posts

293 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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To be honest i cant really say , i'm very fond of all of them. I suppose the bmw would be my last choices but i'd still love a 540i 740i or Z3M.
They're all different and have differet strong points , i couldn't go offroading in the tvr but the land rover wouldn't powerslide.

you have to choose one of the extremes : comfort , performance , looks etc ... or try to find a good enough balance.

But if you really want to know i keep having an image oin my head of me , Marie-Laure (girlfriend) in a dark blue Chimaera 4.5 with cream leather int, with the top down just cruising with the beautiful french countryside all around and the sunset in the distance.

Perfection.

Tony.

littlegearl

3,139 posts

288 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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i think the land rover would be cool, but don't spend more than a grand or so, on one... then you can have a more sensible (read fast) car as well...

seaton

400 posts

285 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Who told you Land Rovers wont power slide?
I had a series III with a 3.5V8 selectable RWD and cross-ply mud tyres which = sideways fun

littlegearl

3,139 posts

288 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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seaton said: Who told you Land Rovers wont power slide?
I had a series III with a 3.5V8 selectable RWD and cross-ply mud tyres which = sideways fun


no one, i know full well that land rovers will power slide () but if your choice was new land rover or second hand TVR (or similar) wouldn't you go for the TVR.

i'm just suggesting, an old LR for around £1k AND a trevor...

seaton

400 posts

285 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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TVR for sure!!!!
Cost about the same to run to!!
Mine did about 10mpg

minimax

11,985 posts

287 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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my recommendation is either the chim, or the cobra - I too have lusted after one since I was ickle I think it would have to be the cobra: raw experience, image, always wanted one, simply gorgeous looks, + all the other obvious reasons

I must play devil here - I drove quite a few fast cars just after I passed as every day drives & I think if you have the skills & the sense, you have the skills and that's it. Of course if you don't, and you think you have, big trouble no offence meant

have fun!

>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:04

>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:05

PatHeald

8,058 posts

287 months

Saturday 22nd March 2003
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Get the Landrover.

I've just sold a Lightweight. It was only a four pot, but it would slide around famously at 30mph. Just the job for learning how to drive properly.

Oh, and just in case you were wondering, it only cost £100 to insure...