Overhaul kit for brake mastercylinder. where to buy?
Overhaul kit for brake mastercylinder. where to buy?
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micha

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1,731 posts

246 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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hi. my brake master cylinder is leaking (fluid running down on flange to servo-unit). where can i buy an overhaul-kit(seals) or does anybody now from which donor-car the cylinder was taken?

i´ve a 1982 tasmin-280i.

cylinder is girling 74660294 with 3 connections.

rev-erend

21,603 posts

307 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Take a look at TVR CAR PARTS :

www.tvrcarparts.com

Search for wedge brakes..

or give them a call - they are masters at finding the parts we need and at a good price.

micha

Original Poster:

1,731 posts

246 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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i know this web-page. i dont think that 120,-pound is a good price, when i compare that several shops here in germany sell new items for historic ford, opel, mercedes...for 20,- to 50,-euro!!!

and i´m sure that this cylinder was fitted also somewhere else, not only in our TVRs.

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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FYI - They may be parts masters but they are not responsive if you try to email them via they web contact. Their phone may work better. Grady

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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I have the same problem on my '86 and everyone keeps pointing (indirectly) to a TR-7 master. - Although mine has a different reservoir design. TVR CAR PARTS' 120 pounds appears to be for an entire (new/recon) master cylinder. If the casting is really the same and could be cross-referenced, there are a number of TR-7 rebuild kits for much less.

As previously posted, when I sent an email inquiry I got not answer.

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

284 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Many ford parts were used, especially on the tasmin. Could it be a ford master cylinder? If yes, it should not be too difficult to track down a set to refurbish. And would expect like 30 Euro's max.

Another method is to take the master cylinder and the seals detached to a parts supplier, as it is not the only possibility to buy complete sets. The seals (long ago) were sold individually as well. The seals can point them in the right direction, and by comparing you can be sure you get the same stuff.

Rob

taimar78

681 posts

285 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Micha,
If you don't find them over there, let me know as I believe I have the kits in stock.

Marshall
Classic Motor Works
USA

shpub

8,507 posts

295 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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grady said:
I have the same problem on my '86 and everyone keeps pointing (indirectly) to a TR-7 master. - Although mine has a different reservoir design. TVR CAR PARTS' 120 pounds appears to be for an entire (new/recon) master cylinder. If the casting is really the same and could be cross-referenced, there are a number of TR-7 rebuild kits for much less.

As previously posted, when I sent an email inquiry I got not answer.


I certainly don't say TR7 as I have seen 7 different brake masters on these cars. Yes they were TR7 early, then Mk IV Cortina but be careful as there was a lot of variation here and then with Sierra/Granada.

The casting is also not much help as it doesn't fully identify the part only the basic casting before it is machined out so the bore size, fittings (both size and number) can vary.

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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Sorry Steve, Didn't mean to misstate regarding the TR-7s; I more hoped it was the solution. Let me ask this question...

On my my master cylinder, the brake fluid level sensor (and its 2 wires) are built into the reservoir cap/lid - much like a Jaguar. Do they all do that or would that provide any clue as to the source? Most of the pictures I've seen (particually of TR7 M/Cs) show what looks like a plain and smaller diameter cap.

Thanks Grady

micha

Original Poster:

1,731 posts

246 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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hi. thanx for all your replies...but still confusing.

from my expierience, i´ve seen only 2 differnt master-cylinders on the early wedges (80-85): the early ones with 3 outlets, the later ones with 2.

mine is a 3outlet one.

shpub

8,507 posts

295 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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The cap isn't much help as that sort of changed as well. The bolt position that attaches the MC to the servo unit can be offset, in line, big holes/small holes. The fittings can be imperial or metric. I suspect that a lot of the variation was caused by the donor manufacturer changing things but not the part number. Happens quite a bit.

The fittings issue can be got round by making new pipes. The bolt holes are a bit trickier.

The seal kits are generic though. Take out the master cylinder, measure the cylinder bore and order appropriately.

micha

Original Poster:

1,731 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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got a prompt reply from TVRparts:

"I am sorry but overhaul kits are no longer available. We have master cylinders in stock at £138.00 plus carriage charges."


today i remembered a german parts-dealer, specialized in british-cars and gave him a ring:

"i´m sorry, a complete cylinder isnt available, but an overhaul kit for 30,-euro (20,-pound), but takes 10days"

so lets wait.......

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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The race is on...

I just sent mine off to be rebuilt. More $$$ (but less than new) and no guesstimating with rebuild kits which wasn't very promising. banghead

leorest

2,346 posts

262 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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grady said:
The race is on...

I just sent mine off to be rebuilt. More $$$ (but less than new) and no guesstimating with rebuild kits which wasn't very promising. banghead
Check you get the same one back as they can get mixed up!

micha

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1,731 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd December 2006
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the company, who gave me the info about the seal-kit didnt reply to my email. will try to fone them 2 moro.

so...we are again back to the beginning:

i "only" need 1 seal for the piston towards the servo. thats the only worn one. (the others have the same dimensnion, too)

i also will try to ask my local suplier for hydraulic-seals 2 moro!!

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Monday 4th December 2006
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Yeah, but now I have to worry I'll get some stray one back. Maybe I'll get one in solid brass-bronze for some rare Roller or Pierce Arrow and retire to a horse farm.

On the other hand, I spent a couple of hours replacing the seat leather on my son's first car "to be"... and learned yet another automotive skill - either how to upholster or the value of sub-contracting rolleyes

micha

Original Poster:

1,731 posts

246 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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the overhaul kit is ordered: 30,-€ and found another company that offers such a kit for only 15,-€, including pistons 34,-€


and now the best thing: the 3 connection mastercylinder is from a ford cortina, definately!!!

costs new 132,-€!!!!!! and not 134,-pound as at TVR parts!!!! Daylight robbery!

watch out here:

www.oldcars.de/kataloge/taunus/Taunus_deutsch.htm

you´ll find the parts on page 59

adam quantrill

11,627 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th December 2006
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Hi Micha,

page 47 looks good for front suspension parts, do you have any idea on prices for wishbones etc?

micha

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1,731 posts

246 months

Wednesday 6th December 2006
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hi, arent the wishbones listed? click on the blue item-no on the end of the chart, a pop-up window will tell you the price (net and incl. vat).

you can also go back to www.oldcars.de and select a differnt car (e.g. granada) for other parts.

grady

1,230 posts

283 months

Thursday 7th December 2006
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Hey, there's a picture of my master cylinder...

[url]www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.[/url]

Does that mean I have a V-8? Nope banghead

Does anyone know if it's at least one of 7 variations for a 2.8?

It's becoming a quest...Grady