wanted : broken ECU + plug
wanted : broken ECU + plug
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Does anyone have an old / broken ECU laying around that they want to get rid of or would sell for a few quid?

Makes no difference if it's broken or what car it came from etc.. as I only want the plug and socket pair - I'm re-wiring the dash on my kitcar and need a huge single plug so it can be easily disconnected.

Obviously I need both male and female parts (ie. ECU socket and loom plug).

thanks
James

Mikey G

4,835 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Seems a bit overkill? you will probably only use about half the pins on most ECU plugs.

Have you tried somewhere like www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/ ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Not seen that site before, but they only have up to 15-way connectors, which is what I'm using at the moment (five of them - 3x10pin and 2x15pin) - I need around 50 or so pins to connect everything up with a single plug.

The Weber alpha ECU under the dash has a lovely single huge plug and I was looking for something similar for the dashboard connections.

Mikey G

4,835 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Are you looking to connect a lot of switches in with it aswell? if so i doubt an ECU multiplug would be able to handle the current of a lot of items.

antonyj

5,254 posts

298 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Maybe you need a Harting plug + socket, they do a 108 version
The pic doesnt show the full 108 , but the data sheet does.

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBro

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Do you have an RS part number? that link doesn't work for me and there are pages and pages of Harting products.

The dash currently has only 4 switches on it (controlling relays) and the loom wires are pretty small, so presumably nothing with too much current.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

272 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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Link doesn't work because forum has mangled it, but the URL contained a session id so it wouldn't have worked anyway.

Try this link http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBro

They aren't cheap though, and you probably have to buy the pins and sockets separately, as with most industrial style connectors.


50 pins does seems an awful lot for a kit car dash (assuming for your Super Six?)

EDIT: Grrrr, didn't realise PH redirected all links through the crappy www.com affilate service, they seem to mangle any slightly complex links. The link was doomed to failure it seems. Copy and paste the following into your browser getting rid of the spaces between http and the colon, and rsww and the next w

http ://rsww w.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBrowseAction.do?D=harting%20108&Ntk=I18NAll&Nr=avl%3auk&Nty=1&Ntt=harting%20108&N=0&name=SiteStandard&forwardingPage=line&R=2383335&callingPage=/jsp/search/search.jsp

Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 27th November 00:53

eliot

11,927 posts

271 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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Lets try the tiny URL approach...
http://tinyurl.com/yxw2zj

Another consideration is a DIN connector - not the Audio type but the type you find on the back of a car radio - a mate used one of them to hook his ECU through the bulkhead.

Eliot.

Edited by eliot on Monday 27th November 07:14

steve_d

13,799 posts

275 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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I would stay with the smaller connectors. You can route wires of a similar function through the one connector making it easier to trace problems in the future.

Steve

GreenV8S

30,956 posts

301 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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steve_d said:
I would stay with the smaller connectors. You can route wires of a similar function through the one connector making it easier to trace problems in the future.

Steve


I agree. Also, by the time you've got a couple of dozen wires in a loom, it's pretty unwieldy. Two or three smaller looms and connectors will be much easy to handle.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Yes, you're probably right. Currently the 5 plugs sort of hang there and are a bit untidy and tricky to connect as you have to pull both ends together almost blind under the dash, but I'm currently rebuilding the dash from ali so I'll make up some nice mountings for the dash-side connectors to hold them solidly in-place.

The smaller plugs from RS with the screw/bolt fixed sockets look ideal.

thanks
James

steve_d

13,799 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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jimsupersix said:
....The smaller plugs from RS with the screw/bolt fixed sockets look ideal.

thanks
James


What plugs are those then?
Sound from your description like they may be 'D' series which would be wholly unsuitable for the currents your wiring may be passing.
Can you post the part number or link so we can advise?

Steve

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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It was the ones that the TinyURL link above points to - Han(R) DD 108P+E skt insert,10A 250Vac.

I think 250V and 10amps should be OK for a few dashboard lights?

steve_d

13,799 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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OK, those will do the job but are you made of money?
That's £11 for each half of the connector and then you have to buy the crimp contacts separately plus you may need a special crimp tool.
Go to someone like premier wiring and buy all parts of a 15 way connector for £3.50.

Steve

maxc

233 posts

246 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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I suggest you try www.dataspares.com/ - Based in London, they are very good and they stock all connectors for Motec, Haltech, etc.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Sunday 3rd December 2006
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Steve, those connectors are what I am using on the old dash, they're fine but difficult to fix neatly as they are just supposed to clip into a square hole, which doesn't work very well at all.

However, as you say they are very cheap so I might as well re-use them on the new dash and see if I can build some form of solid housing for them. The new dash is entirely aluminium rather than a piece of plywood so it should be much easier and stronger to fix to.

I see Premier do their bargain cable spools for £3.50 - I might have a couple of those for the wiring, much cheaper then Halfrauds.

thanks
James

GreenV8S

30,956 posts

301 months

Sunday 3rd December 2006
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jimsupersix said:
much cheaper then Halfrauds.


God, don't buy cable and so on from that lot. You'll get far better quality, better choice and lower prices from specialists like Vehicle Wiring Products, who also sell mail order by the meter.

steve_d

13,799 posts

275 months

Sunday 3rd December 2006
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jimsupersix said:
Steve, those connectors are what I am using on the old dash, they're fine but difficult to fix neatly as they are just supposed to clip into a square hole, which doesn't work very well at all.........


Why do you feel the need to fix them to or through something. When plugged together they can be neatly cable tied into the rest of the loom. Bottom line is that if you have done all your wiring well you will never need to go in there again.

Steve

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

71 months

Monday 4th December 2006
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I want to fix them down so they are easier to plug together and unplug one-handed under the dash. I have had them on my current dash for ages and they are a complete pig to unplug when loose.

As for your comment about doing the wiring well, I assume you are implying that if I hadn't done a crap wiring job I wouldn't need to remove the dash frequently to fix it?

combemarshal

2,030 posts

243 months

Monday 4th December 2006
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Are you planning on taking all the electrics through this, I would take things like lights and heaters ect through it, Unless you like burning plastic that is!!