missus drives 993 and 996 for the 1st time
missus drives 993 and 996 for the 1st time
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graeme73s

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7,227 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Yesterday morning I took the missus down to Paragon to look at a metallic black 993 tip (she only has an automatic license) that they have for sale. She has an alpina 3 series coupe that I was looking to part exchange for the Porsche. I know the chaps at Paragon very well and they were happy to give me the keys and for me to take her out on a test drive. Well a long story short she drove the 993 for about 12 miles and we returned to the dealership but did not fancy it as it looked more metallic grey than black. Whilst chating to Jamie (one of the salesman and a very nice chap) she fell in love with a 996 C4 tip, black with black hood cab so we were handed the keys.
In her words, I would like to buy what I want and not what you think I should have. So fair enough I took her out in the 996 cab. Within half a mile she said this is a tinny piece of crap, the build quality is no different to my bloody smart car, she pulled over and said you drive it back. I take my hat of to Kerry. She has never driven a Porsche before but could discern the difference between a Porsche built as a quality product and a Porsche built with profit in mind. Over the years she has been a passenger in a number of Porsche's but has never ever driven one. I know these remarks are inflamatory but I could not resist posting it.

shadowninja

80,094 posts

312 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Black 993 it is, then! I quite fancy a 993 Targa thing. Glass roof that slides back in summer has an appeal.

ballcock

3,855 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Jeez !! .. Thank the stars .. If she liked it us voser boys would never have heard the end of it....

TOENHEEL

4,501 posts

257 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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After driving many a Porsche I find it hard to believe a 993 is better built than a 996, I drove a 993 not long ago and even shutting the driver’s door had a cheap sound to it. The car is in everyday terms... a DOG compared to a 996, by all means though, if you can handle a car then a 993 is a must for an all round driving enthusiast who knows what he’s doing (or she!!) As Porsche have built cars especially the 911, for a long time I find it hard to believe that their cars get worse in build quality as the years go bye, hence why they are one of the most profitable car manufacturers in the world!! (LET’S THANK THE BOXSTER FOR SAVING THE COMPANY NOT SO LONG AGO) As many 911 owners will torture the Boxster and its owners, I am 21 years old and own a 986 Boxster and although it is not a 911 in performance and name, it is far superior to a TT, S2000 or whatever else you decide to put it up against. So when my insurance will come down I will buy a 911 but let’s cut the bullsh*t about 911 vs. boxster because it isn’t even a competition, the 911 is a fantastic car and although some fellow boxster owners will argue….. It doesn’t even come close to a 911 unless you want a practical roadster but that would be buying the car for the wrong reason

johnsuper

87 posts

243 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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i think a 996c4 cabriolet would feel more sluggish that a simple rwd ??

verysideways

10,271 posts

302 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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TOENHEEL said:
After driving many a Porsche I find it hard to believe a 993 is better built than a 996, I drove a 993 not long ago and even shutting the driver’s door had a cheap sound to it.

Something was clearly wrong with the 993 you drove then. The 993 bodyshell costs 5 times more to make than the 996 bodyshell, and the 996C2 is lighter than the 993C2. There's a reason for that!!!

I hate to so strongly disagree with your opinion but although the 993 is an old fashioned anachronism it WILL ALWAYS BE better built than anything Porsche have made since. Porsche simply couldn't afford to keep over engineering cars to that standard, that's why the 996 and 986 share so many parts and cost so much less to produce.

O/T: i think the Boxster is a great car, better than anything else in its class, and i thank porsche for making it because it allows them the flexibility to stay independant and to keep building things like the 997 GT3.

ballcock

3,855 posts

249 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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TOENHEEL said:
, I am 21 years old and own a 986 Boxster



Mods ... Remove this man hehe

fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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so, from what your saying... the 993 is a girls car?

hehe

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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I find it hard to believe that any of the fairer sex would find a 993 better to drive than a 996..most women i know(and many blokes as well)think the 930/964/993's variants are totally unpleasant and ungainly to drive wheres as the 996 and even more so the 997 are totally 'normal' cars that can be used everyday.The quirky interior,rubbish ventilation and poor driving position are the main complaints in my experience.The enthusiasts love the air cooled as the quality and tradition is what they want,but for the average bod they are truly awful..imho of course.eek

verysideways

10,271 posts

302 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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But she didn't mention the drive did she, just the build quality.

If she'd enjoyed the drive then you'd have had to wonder if she'd shaved off her beard and hidden her horse brasses... rolleyes

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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kayc said:
I find it hard to believe that any of the fairer sex would find a 993 better to drive than a 996..most women i know(and many blokes as well)think the 930/964/993's variants are totally unpleasant and ungainly to drive wheres as the 996 and even more so the 997 are totally 'normal' cars that can be used everyday.The quirky interior,rubbish ventilation and poor driving position are the main complaints in my experience.The enthusiasts love the air cooled as the quality and tradition is what they want,but for the average bod they are truly awful..imho of course.eek


what he said.

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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francisb said:
kayc said:
I find it hard to believe that any of the fairer sex would find a 993 better to drive than a 996..most women i know(and many blokes as well)think the 930/964/993's variants are totally unpleasant and ungainly to drive wheres as the 996 and even more so the 997 are totally 'normal' cars that can be used everyday.The quirky interior,rubbish ventilation and poor driving position are the main complaints in my experience.The enthusiasts love the air cooled as the quality and tradition is what they want,but for the average bod they are truly awful..imho of course.eek


what he said.


Yep, move along nothing to see here.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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sleep envy said:
sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep


Tired this morning?

wildoliver

9,314 posts

246 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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Well my ex used to love driving my 964, mind you she was a good driver.........

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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magic torch said:
sleep envy said:
sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep


Tired this morning?


yes

can you tell?

fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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fidgits said:
so, from what your saying... the 993 is a girls car?

hehe


wildoliver said:
Well my ex used to love driving my 964, mind you she was a good driver.........

Oh...

so maybe its all the old air cooled 911's that are girls cars?

ted 191

1,469 posts

255 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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graeme73s said:
Yesterday morning I took the missus down to Paragon to look at a metallic black 993 tip (she only has an automatic license) that they have for sale. She has an alpina 3 series coupe that I was looking to part exchange for the Porsche. I know the chaps at Paragon very well and they were happy to give me the keys and for me to take her out on a test drive. Well a long story short she drove the 993 for about 12 miles and we returned to the dealership but did not fancy it as it looked more metallic grey than black. Whilst chating to Jamie (one of the salesman and a very nice chap) she fell in love with a 996 C4 tip, black with black hood cab so we were handed the keys.
In her words, I would like to buy what I want and not what you think I should have. So fair enough I took her out in the 996 cab. Within half a mile she said this is a tinny piece of crap, the build quality is no different to my bloody smart car, she pulled over and said you drive it back. I take my hat of to Kerry. She has never driven a Porsche before but could discern the difference between a Porsche built as a quality product and a Porsche built with profit in mind. Over the years she has been a passenger in a number of Porsche's but has never ever driven one. I know these remarks are inflamatory but I could not resist posting it.

She obviously didn`t test drive you before buying

Edited by ted 191 on Monday 27th November 09:39

wildoliver

9,314 posts

246 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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fidgits said:
fidgits said:
so, from what your saying... the 993 is a girls car?

hehe


wildoliver said:
Well my ex used to love driving my 964, mind you she was a good driver.........

Oh...

so maybe its all the old air cooled 911's that are girls cars?



Hey I'm a double girl mines a cabrio

paracetamol

4,267 posts

274 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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graeme73s said:
(she only has an automatic license)



Tell her to learn to drive and then maybe we'll give a sh*t about her opinion.