Help...anyone been bust by a hump?
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I'd try a tack of saying:
Which cars, exactly, are not damaged by speed bumps? I have a car with a low skirt. Improves aerodynamics and fuel consumption. Bloody thing grounds on every goddamn speed bump. Oh...so a Range Rover ISN'T damaged by speed bumps....well...and it gets 14mpg. Even my sports car does twice as well as that...so what, exactly, would be better for the environment?
Adding to the war of escalation where you're turning the streets into an off-road track for 4x4s only or removing a few speed humps and making the road smooth and fit enough for ordinary Type Approved cars?
The Traffic Calmers WANT to damage the environment by forcing us all into Rangies. Nutters.
Unfortunately I haven't heard of any engineering studies into car damage by speed humps....one will have to go with logic I'm afraid..
Which cars, exactly, are not damaged by speed bumps? I have a car with a low skirt. Improves aerodynamics and fuel consumption. Bloody thing grounds on every goddamn speed bump. Oh...so a Range Rover ISN'T damaged by speed bumps....well...and it gets 14mpg. Even my sports car does twice as well as that...so what, exactly, would be better for the environment?
Adding to the war of escalation where you're turning the streets into an off-road track for 4x4s only or removing a few speed humps and making the road smooth and fit enough for ordinary Type Approved cars?
The Traffic Calmers WANT to damage the environment by forcing us all into Rangies. Nutters.
Unfortunately I haven't heard of any engineering studies into car damage by speed humps....one will have to go with logic I'm afraid..
I am on my forth front splitter on the chimaera this year!!, 2 of which have been ripped off by speed humps!!!!, at about 5 miles an hour!!!! 
Don said: ...
The Traffic Calmers WANT to damage the environment by forcing us all into Rangies. Nutters.
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Not only getting us into things that can go over speed humps at any speed without damage, also the additional wear and tear on brakes and the extra fuel in accelerating (as quickly as possible - ref RAC study on fuel consumption).
I hate 'em - lets get rid !
Bob
Yep, my father managed to take the exhaust of his car due to speed bumps. It was hidden around a corner and was rather large to say the least. No warning, no information, just there one day. Anyway, long story lead to the council paying up for the repairs to his and 6 other cars also damaged....
As for speed bumps in general, it is WIDELY accepted taht they do cause more suspension wear, greater emissions and actually add nothing to the general safety of the area they are deployed. Understand them in car parks etc, but on public roads its useless, worthless and not worth the money....
No damage my ar5e...
Cheers,
Paul
As for speed bumps in general, it is WIDELY accepted taht they do cause more suspension wear, greater emissions and actually add nothing to the general safety of the area they are deployed. Understand them in car parks etc, but on public roads its useless, worthless and not worth the money....
No damage my ar5e...
Cheers,
Paul
As far as cars rubbing on speed bumps I've just been looking at the The Highways (Traffic Calming) Regulations 1999 and it states:-
Prohibition of certain works
9. No traffic calming work shall be constructed or maintained in a carriageway so as to prevent the passage of 'any' vehicle unless the passage of that vehicle is otherwise lawfully prohibited.
www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1999/19991026.htm
Prohibition of certain works
9. No traffic calming work shall be constructed or maintained in a carriageway so as to prevent the passage of 'any' vehicle unless the passage of that vehicle is otherwise lawfully prohibited.
www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1999/19991026.htm
Since moving to an area of town with those 'metre square' speedbumps I've had;
1) An exhaust fall off
2) my tracking out of adjustment so badly that I scrubbed two decent tyres flat
3) wheel alignment that means you have to hold the wheel off-centre to drive in a straight line,
4) A roof clip snap
5) near fatal wear to suspension bushes (according to Mr MOT man)
6) no end of funny vibrations at 60mph and over (probably due to the bushes I guess)
7) All three cars I've used have developed noticable new rattles and squeaks
8) collapsed parcel shelf mounts
I guess lots of stuff on the cars was on it's way out anyhow as they're all quite old now, but I find it hard to believe that 3 otherwise good (if mundane) cars have fallen apart so suddenly within a year. Two of them are now up for sale (or scrap maybe) due to the amount of trouble I'm having.
IMO if the speedbumps didn't cause the trouble they sure accellerated it.
I mean we're talking about a 20 zone here, I respect the limit and slow down even further for the bumps but they're still damn vicious.
Arguments against;
* Increased likelihood of unsafe vehicles on the road due to increased component wear.
* Increased risk of catastrophic failure of tyres due to loads approaching/exceeding design tolerance on a regular basis
* Increased risk of vehicle failure caused by regular pounding it was never designed to take
* Effective blocking of certain types of vehicles (see earlier)
* draws drivers' concentration away from the road
* reduces stability of crossing vehicles, therefore hazardous if emergency breaking is needed
Arguments for;
* lentil sales boom in accordance with number of bumps in any given area
* really annoys those child killing motorists
1) An exhaust fall off
2) my tracking out of adjustment so badly that I scrubbed two decent tyres flat
3) wheel alignment that means you have to hold the wheel off-centre to drive in a straight line,
4) A roof clip snap
5) near fatal wear to suspension bushes (according to Mr MOT man)
6) no end of funny vibrations at 60mph and over (probably due to the bushes I guess)
7) All three cars I've used have developed noticable new rattles and squeaks
8) collapsed parcel shelf mounts
I guess lots of stuff on the cars was on it's way out anyhow as they're all quite old now, but I find it hard to believe that 3 otherwise good (if mundane) cars have fallen apart so suddenly within a year. Two of them are now up for sale (or scrap maybe) due to the amount of trouble I'm having.
IMO if the speedbumps didn't cause the trouble they sure accellerated it.
I mean we're talking about a 20 zone here, I respect the limit and slow down even further for the bumps but they're still damn vicious.
Arguments against;
* Increased likelihood of unsafe vehicles on the road due to increased component wear.
* Increased risk of catastrophic failure of tyres due to loads approaching/exceeding design tolerance on a regular basis
* Increased risk of vehicle failure caused by regular pounding it was never designed to take
* Effective blocking of certain types of vehicles (see earlier)
* draws drivers' concentration away from the road
* reduces stability of crossing vehicles, therefore hazardous if emergency breaking is needed
Arguments for;
* lentil sales boom in accordance with number of bumps in any given area
* really annoys those child killing motorists
What is the status of the proposed humps on your road Paul? I take it that you didn't manage to beat them
Does anyone have, or know of, evidence that speed humps damage vehicles?
I know they've damaged my suspension.
A smartarse engineer has written to my local paper to say humps don't damage cars.
I want to shoot him down in flames. Help, please.
. The sad thing is that there were possibly only two people that complained when given the chance - I'll admit that I wouldn't have known about the scheme if you hadn't alerted me to it. As has been said before - lefty Sheffield CC encourage 4x4 driving on the roads. Still, not quite as bad as when Bluinket was here
- as our government is funded by motorist taxes, it makes sense to encourage people into more expensive thirstier cars doesn't it!Hi Richard. The proposed humps aren't on my road, but are very close, and on roads I use regularly. Our objections will be under consideration and, if the council's procedure is the same as Derbyshire, we should get a reply, with minutes of the relevant meetings, etc. It's wait and see at the moment.
If you read the Star, you'll have seen a backlash against humps, led by the paper itself with 2 full pages. Hundreds wrote to the paper, only one supported humps.....a keen cyclist!
Since then, many letters have been published, most being anti, but the council wrote in support. I shot them down, but this twerp has just had a go at me, also declaring that he knows about cars and humps won't damage them. I now need ammo to turn the tables, hence my request here.
The pro brigade can only say one thing, along the lines of "if they save the life of one child, they're worth it."
I can't get through to them that drivers concentrating on humps takes attention away from kids on footpaths, nor to the fact that ambulances are delayed getting to domestic casualties.......who just so happen to more numerous than road casualties.
I'll email you with more on another proposed scheme.
If you read the Star, you'll have seen a backlash against humps, led by the paper itself with 2 full pages. Hundreds wrote to the paper, only one supported humps.....a keen cyclist!
Since then, many letters have been published, most being anti, but the council wrote in support. I shot them down, but this twerp has just had a go at me, also declaring that he knows about cars and humps won't damage them. I now need ammo to turn the tables, hence my request here.
The pro brigade can only say one thing, along the lines of "if they save the life of one child, they're worth it."
I can't get through to them that drivers concentrating on humps takes attention away from kids on footpaths, nor to the fact that ambulances are delayed getting to domestic casualties.......who just so happen to more numerous than road casualties.
I'll email you with more on another proposed scheme.
I have proposed humps on my road as part of the safe routes to school scheme.
I want a safe route for my kids to school but the council thinks a safe route is a road which has speed bumps on it. What we wanted was improved crossing places etc so I protested and after six letters, I got nowhere and the workmen marked the road and started cutting in preparation.
As a last ditch attempt, I went round my village and got a petition going - everyone bar three people signed it - and gave it to my local councilor.
I hope its done some good as its been two weeks now and the workmen have not reappeared.
I hope I've made a difference.
Fingers crossed.
I want a safe route for my kids to school but the council thinks a safe route is a road which has speed bumps on it. What we wanted was improved crossing places etc so I protested and after six letters, I got nowhere and the workmen marked the road and started cutting in preparation.
As a last ditch attempt, I went round my village and got a petition going - everyone bar three people signed it - and gave it to my local councilor.
I hope its done some good as its been two weeks now and the workmen have not reappeared.
I hope I've made a difference.
Fingers crossed.
Nice one Byff!
All I can suggest in answer to your cyclist friend is that most cars on the road today were designed before the time of speed bumps and hence were never intended to take the equivalent of driving up a kerb every few seconds.
If he really does know anything about cars he'll know that its rather easy to upset a vehicles' tracking. You may wish to point that out.
Also I think the paper would kill for some pictures of cars damaged by speedbumps - so anyone with a broken Tiv and a digicam take note - Mybrainhurts needs you!
All I can suggest in answer to your cyclist friend is that most cars on the road today were designed before the time of speed bumps and hence were never intended to take the equivalent of driving up a kerb every few seconds.
If he really does know anything about cars he'll know that its rather easy to upset a vehicles' tracking. You may wish to point that out.
Also I think the paper would kill for some pictures of cars damaged by speedbumps - so anyone with a broken Tiv and a digicam take note - Mybrainhurts needs you!
things... that hurt... a lot...I heard someone from the London Ambulance Trust on the radio the other day saying that he was "anti-speed humps". Apparently, on average, for every minute you can save in getting a heart attack patient to hospital, you increase their chance of survival by 10% i.e. if you're 10 minutes late, don't bother. Don't quote me on these figures because I can't remember exactly, but it was some sort of time and percentage survival rate balance.
Anyway, the "bottom line" was that he JUST stopped short of saying that speed humps in greater London have killed more people than they've saved! He wasn't campaigning against speed humps particularly, it was a debate on a wider topic and this little "gem" just happened to come up. He went on record as saying he didn't have an axe to grind and he didn't condone speeding but those were the facts (and obviously, something like an ambulance trust has very well documented response times and they've gone up in some areas with lots of speed humps).
As another aside, I've heard of fire engines bursting their water tanks while rushing over these things but have never seen one.
Anyway, the "bottom line" was that he JUST stopped short of saying that speed humps in greater London have killed more people than they've saved! He wasn't campaigning against speed humps particularly, it was a debate on a wider topic and this little "gem" just happened to come up. He went on record as saying he didn't have an axe to grind and he didn't condone speeding but those were the facts (and obviously, something like an ambulance trust has very well documented response times and they've gone up in some areas with lots of speed humps).
As another aside, I've heard of fire engines bursting their water tanks while rushing over these things but have never seen one.
Just found this on the 'Guild of experienced motorists' site.
DONT FLAME ME I ONLY GO THERE FOR A LAUGH!
Similar things happen near me. The little buggers think they're invincible. Football accross the road is the least of our problems.
Still, leave it long enough and I'm sure Darwin will have his wicked way...
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DONT FLAME ME I ONLY GO THERE FOR A LAUGH!
Safety is not just the concern of the motorist. Our estate has been downgraded from 30mph to 20mph. Road humps fitted etc. The net result of this action has not been a safer road.
Children now play football across the road and cars swerve to center themselves on the humps. The following story will bring shivers to any motorist. I turned into our street (at 15mph as to be honest it is impossible to go round any faster) Two children were playing chicken by laying from kerb to kerb.
No action to stop this pratice was taken by police despite 4 phone calls so residents had words themselves. The result??? A policeman on the doorstep threatening all concerned because they dared to tell the kids to move.
These situations did not arise when the road was 30mph as there was a danger that could be appreciated. Remove the danger and kids will take more chances.
sheerwater@ntlworld.com
Similar things happen near me. The little buggers think they're invincible. Football accross the road is the least of our problems.
Still, leave it long enough and I'm sure Darwin will have his wicked way...
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