Anyone know anything about snakes?
Anyone know anything about snakes?
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dern

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14,055 posts

310 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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I was canoeing up the kennet canal near Nebury today and saw a snake in the canal. It was swimming very strongly with it's head out of the water towards me. I paddled around behind it (it ignored me) and wandered off the the bank. The snake was about 60cm in length, green, had a narrow 'neck' which widened out quite a bit at the head. It was about 2pm.

Was it a grass snake. I've never seen one before and was quite surprised to see it let alone see it swimming in the canal.

Cheers,

Mark

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Yeah i think your right, grass snakes are green and about the size you say, last year i quite nearly walked on one, warming itself in the sunshine on a quiet bank by stream near here, only seen one swim though ever.

Superflid

2,254 posts

296 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Sounds like a Grass Snake. Most, if not all, snakes can swim.

First time I met Mrs S/F she said "Can you hold this a minute" and dropped a 4 foot Python on my lap

This was my introduction to the world of snakes......

pies

13,116 posts

287 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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IIRC we only have two types of snakes in this country the adder and grass snakes the size alone tells me what you saw was a grass snake>It is also very common for them to swim

rich 36

13,739 posts

297 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Strangely, i got on ok with some snakes i was shown once years ago, girl (I vaguely knew) kept some in boxes under her bed, and they can eat RATS, which is a plus.

cinqster

1,057 posts

310 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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I saw one swim across a lake when I was about 8; I nearly popped myself and ran off home! I'm sure it was over 2" long though. Mind you, this was on The Isle of Grain - which has some very odd inbred creatures!

John S.

dern

Original Poster:

14,055 posts

310 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Cheers for the info, I'll keep an eye out for more next time I'm down there. Just taken up canoeing again after a gap of nearly 20 years... very relaxing and knackering at the same time... I ache like hell today.

Cheers,

Mark

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

298 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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cinqster said: I saw one swim across a lake when I was about 8; I nearly popped myself and ran off home! I'm sure it was over 2" long though. Mind you, this was on The Isle of Grain - which has some very odd inbred creatures!

John S.


Two inches eh. 8 years old eh. Mind is boggling.

bennno

15,301 posts

300 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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I was canoeing up the kennet canal near Nebury today and saw a snake in the canal. It was swimming very strongly with it's head out of the water towards me. I paddled around behind it (it ignored me) and wandered off the the bank. The snake was about 60cm in length, green, had a narrow 'neck' which widened out quite a bit at the head. It was about 2pm.

Was it a grass snake. I've never seen one before and was quite surprised to see it let alone see it swimming in the canal.

Cheers,

Mark



cut & paste..

Fifty years ago the grass snake, Natrix natrix, was very common in Great Britain; it could be seen in quite large numbers at a good site. Now it is quite rare, because of loss of habitat and food. In October 2001, over 140 grass snakes, many being juveniles, were found in warm places in the Dilke Hospital, Gloucester. The name natrix refers to the grass snake's ability to swim, which it performs well, with a sinuous motion. Grass snake often live near water, and frogs figure strongly in their diet. Click here for a simulation of a swimming grass snake. The great reduction in the frog population has done the grass snake no good at all; their numbers have dwindled alarmingly over the last fifty years. Grass snakes can also, if infrequently, be found at a considerable distances from water.


My house backs on to the canal at Aldermaston Wharf - where were you canoeing?

Bennno

Exint2

282 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd March 2003
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Definately a grass snake, there are a number near me living on the banks of the grand Union Canal.

Just to be pedantic with an earlier post there are 3 native Snakes to the mainland, the grass snake, the adder and the very rare and very protected Smooth Snake.

dern

Original Poster:

14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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My house backs on to the canal at Aldermaston Wharf - where were you canoeing?
Yesterday I got in at Thatcham railway station and went to Newbury (library carpark, couldn't get any further yesterday as there was a canoe race on) and then back to Thatcham (about 7 miles and 5 or 6 locks each way).

Mark

>> Edited by dern on Monday 24th March 07:08

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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There are actually 3 types of British snake - the Adder, the grass snake and the (very rare) smooth snake - found on small numbers of heathland sites in Surrey, Dorset and Hampshire.


Where do snakes live?
Grass snakes often live near water, where they swim and feed. They also live in damp woodlands and meadows. For overwintering they like high, dry banks covered with brambles and rabbit burrows, and also garden rockeries. Kent is a stronghold for the grass snake.

Adders are found in a variety of habitats but not generally in areas of human habitation. In Kent adders are now restricted to chalk downland and other areas with free-draining soils. They are in serious decline in Kent.

How can I tell the difference between a grass snake and an adder?
Adders are rarely more than 65cm in length. The usually have a greyish/brown colouration with a continuous black zigzag on their back and roundish blotches on each side. The zigzag is usually preceded with a V-shape mark on the back of the head, though this mark may be X- or H-shaped.

Grass snakes are longer than adders – adults reach between 80cm and 120cm. Their background colour is olive-green, grey or brownish with a distinctive, usually whitish-yellow and black, collar. This collar is occasionally absent in larger individuals. Black vertical bars and spots run along each side.

In the grass snake the eye has a round pupil – in the adder it is vertical.... so how close to it did you get?


... might have been a slow worm... but then, I'm not sure if they swim or not!

dern

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14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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In the grass snake the eye has a round pupil – in the adder it is vertical.... so how close to it did you get?
About 2 feet but I didn't look in its eyes... haven't you seen the jungle book?!

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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dern said:

In the grass snake the eye has a round pupil – in the adder it is vertical.... so how close to it did you get?
About 2 feet but I didn't look in its eyes... haven't you seen the jungle book?!


Adder's wont bite unless provoked... and grass snakes are friendly!

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Snakey says "hello Dern!"



bennno

15,301 posts

300 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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should have hit it with a paddle

my wife now dislikes backing on to the canal

whats the best way to kill a grassnake, stamp on its head or cut it in half with a shovel??

Bennno

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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bennno said:
should have hit it with a paddle

my wife now dislikes backing on to the canal

whats the best way to kill a grassnake, stamp on its head or cut it in half with a shovel??

Bennno




Why kill it? Grass snake won't harm you... to be honest it's probably more scared of you, thatn you are of it!

kevinday

13,875 posts

311 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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More like a grass-snake cannot harm you than will not.

mrsd

1,502 posts

284 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Does Mrs bennno garden ? If so just tell her that they eat slugs. Her attitude will change in seconds. Don't kill snakes it's not big, it's not clever and your not just letting yourself down...

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

299 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Sounds like a mini annoconda ( bet ive spelt that wrong:rolleys: ) beat it with yer paddle next time