Tasmin Registration in France--impossible?
Discussion
hi. can anyone help me with the following thing: a friend of mine wants to purchase 1 of my tasmins. he lives in france and want to registrate it there...and now the problem starts:
everywhere he goes he hears a "no" or "not possible".
i definately know that there are any RHD Wedges running officially in france. what i would need is a copy of the french registration documents and an adress where the car will pass the tests.
everywhere he goes he hears a "no" or "not possible".
i definately know that there are any RHD Wedges running officially in france. what i would need is a copy of the french registration documents and an adress where the car will pass the tests.
exactly thats not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this law exists, but the local law "counts" more than the european one.
even here in germany you have many problems (or its definately impossible) to registrate certain cars. and the french rules/laws are much more "harder"!!
e.g. kitcars after 1st registration 1992 cant be officially registrated here (cause of missing catalytic converters)...
even here in germany you have many problems (or its definately impossible) to registrate certain cars. and the french rules/laws are much more "harder"!!
e.g. kitcars after 1st registration 1992 cant be officially registrated here (cause of missing catalytic converters)...
micha said:
exactly thats not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this law exists, but the local law "counts" more than the european one.
even here in germany you have many problems (or its definately impossible) to registrate certain cars. and the french rules/laws are much more "harder"!!
e.g. kitcars after 1st registration 1992 cant be officially registrated here (cause of missing catalytic converters)...
even here in germany you have many problems (or its definately impossible) to registrate certain cars. and the french rules/laws are much more "harder"!!
e.g. kitcars after 1st registration 1992 cant be officially registrated here (cause of missing catalytic converters)...
damned tossers! i sure hope he can find another way around this, good luck!
Hi All,
What's "bribery"?
The EU agreements cover some approvals but not all, for instance if you imported a UK registered kit car (Single Vehicle Approved) into France you would need to pass SVA again in France since the rules change from country to country (the only exception being if you used to live in the UK and relocated).
I would recommend you give a call to the french DVLA and explain the case. I'd say they will search a vehicle database to see if the car in question has EU wide approval such as type approval which is now EU wide or some equivalent approval which may exist for types manufactured in smaller quantities (I seem to remember there's some approval having to do with that).
TVRs are not Single Vehicle Approved cars, so their approval may or may be not EU wide. A phone call should clarify..
Best luck!
PS: I relocated from the UK to Spain where I'm from and took a Locost kit car with me which is now registered in Spain, one of very very few!
What's "bribery"?
The EU agreements cover some approvals but not all, for instance if you imported a UK registered kit car (Single Vehicle Approved) into France you would need to pass SVA again in France since the rules change from country to country (the only exception being if you used to live in the UK and relocated).
I would recommend you give a call to the french DVLA and explain the case. I'd say they will search a vehicle database to see if the car in question has EU wide approval such as type approval which is now EU wide or some equivalent approval which may exist for types manufactured in smaller quantities (I seem to remember there's some approval having to do with that).
TVRs are not Single Vehicle Approved cars, so their approval may or may be not EU wide. A phone call should clarify..
Best luck!
PS: I relocated from the UK to Spain where I'm from and took a Locost kit car with me which is now registered in Spain, one of very very few!
"Bestechung"?? germany isnt a banana-republic......löl.........maybe france??????
yesterday i asked a french-specialist for british sports cars right around the corner (as i live near the french border):
he told me that for this kind of cars you need an individual-single approval. this is made by a governmental institution: it will cost around 120,-euro, but you never now the result. if the tester is pro-british you might pass without doing anything. if not you need to bring certificates for body-crash, emmision-certificates, certificates for the glass, noise-certificate...and so on.
the next possibility is to wait until next year when the car is 25years old (in july). than there would be the possibility to registrate it as a historic vehicle. therefore you only need to pass the french-mot..and thats easy.
but (there is always a "but"
: laws change in france next year: to get the hisotric registration a car must be 30 years old. the law definately changes, but nobody knows when. so maybe we wait until may..and in june the law will be changed..than goodbye....maybe it will be changed in august, maybe in march..nobody knows.
germany the same: from march 2007 a certain no-plate ( you can share 10 cars and have to pay only a fixed tax of 190,-euro/year) changes from 20 to 30 year old vehicles. this means you have to wait until your car gets old enough, to put it on sorn or to sell. or to registrate it as a normal car and pay 30,-€tax per 100cc engine size.
this means for a 350 tasmin: 30 x 35=915,-€ tax per year!!!!
the prices for such cars will drop down than...i think!!
yesterday i asked a french-specialist for british sports cars right around the corner (as i live near the french border):
he told me that for this kind of cars you need an individual-single approval. this is made by a governmental institution: it will cost around 120,-euro, but you never now the result. if the tester is pro-british you might pass without doing anything. if not you need to bring certificates for body-crash, emmision-certificates, certificates for the glass, noise-certificate...and so on.
the next possibility is to wait until next year when the car is 25years old (in july). than there would be the possibility to registrate it as a historic vehicle. therefore you only need to pass the french-mot..and thats easy.
but (there is always a "but"
: laws change in france next year: to get the hisotric registration a car must be 30 years old. the law definately changes, but nobody knows when. so maybe we wait until may..and in june the law will be changed..than goodbye....maybe it will be changed in august, maybe in march..nobody knows. germany the same: from march 2007 a certain no-plate ( you can share 10 cars and have to pay only a fixed tax of 190,-euro/year) changes from 20 to 30 year old vehicles. this means you have to wait until your car gets old enough, to put it on sorn or to sell. or to registrate it as a normal car and pay 30,-€tax per 100cc engine size.
this means for a 350 tasmin: 30 x 35=915,-€ tax per year!!!!
the prices for such cars will drop down than...i think!!
Edited by micha on Friday 8th December 09:31
The French are famous for their red tape don't underestimate the system!
I like the idea of sharing road tax between vehicles I doubt it will catch on over here though as it doesn't fit into the governments philosophy (not political at their all the same) of extracting maximum money from the motorist.
I like the idea of sharing road tax between vehicles I doubt it will catch on over here though as it doesn't fit into the governments philosophy (not political at their all the same) of extracting maximum money from the motorist.
i know...sure its possible..it always depends on your relations and money...but here we discuss are "normal" offical procedure for a "standard" french person.....if you know somebody, please tell me his adress, fon no , email...and dont tell " i know somebody who might have done it in the past somewhere in france".....regards,
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