Warning Fuel Sensor
Discussion
I am getting the same problem. The dash shows "WARNING CODE 17 - Fuel sensor" although the warning code might be wrong as I am reading it from a dodgy photo I took with my phone, it looks like a 7 but could be a 9 or maybe something else 
I would like to resolve this problem. Does anyone have a solution other than just ignore it? It was suggested that maybe the sensor need cleaning and the connectors checked. Trouble is I don't know how to get to the sensor on my very early T350c!?
I would like to resolve this problem. Does anyone have a solution other than just ignore it? It was suggested that maybe the sensor need cleaning and the connectors checked. Trouble is I don't know how to get to the sensor on my very early T350c!?
Aswell as the usual cleaning sensor etc solutions, there is another.
The software is extremely badly written. You will find you get other faults like this, random EFI warnings, random water sensor warnings, etc. If they are part of an obvious problem situation...and you will see other symptoms of any problems then get it investigated asap! At random times however, when nothing else is showing you trouble the more likely answer is that the error is software coding generated, most probably a bugger overflow error in the code. That will trip the error handler in the code and depending on which buffer has been "corrupted" will trigger the appropriate error code. The handler in addition to generating the code will then clear the buffer and do a soft reset wheere it clears itself from the screen.
When the error stays on the screen and you need to hit both buttons, you are doing a manual reset and clearing out the buffers. I would hope the code had been written such that, the systems *thinks* this is more serious than a slack coding issue and that a genuine problem has occured that the owner needs to look at/address. I know from experience however, that that is often not the case and that the owner needs to do their manual reset and clear the buffers and nothing is wrong with the car still, just the crap software and coding.
The software is extremely badly written. You will find you get other faults like this, random EFI warnings, random water sensor warnings, etc. If they are part of an obvious problem situation...and you will see other symptoms of any problems then get it investigated asap! At random times however, when nothing else is showing you trouble the more likely answer is that the error is software coding generated, most probably a bugger overflow error in the code. That will trip the error handler in the code and depending on which buffer has been "corrupted" will trigger the appropriate error code. The handler in addition to generating the code will then clear the buffer and do a soft reset wheere it clears itself from the screen.
When the error stays on the screen and you need to hit both buttons, you are doing a manual reset and clearing out the buffers. I would hope the code had been written such that, the systems *thinks* this is more serious than a slack coding issue and that a genuine problem has occured that the owner needs to look at/address. I know from experience however, that that is often not the case and that the owner needs to do their manual reset and clear the buffers and nothing is wrong with the car still, just the crap software and coding.
Can't believe there isn't someone out there that can write an update for this software. It also seems a real shame that the software doesn't make good use of that great big matrix display.
What's the deal with it? Who wote it, how was it written? Is there any way of getting to the code itself?
Is it embedded C? I presume it is...
Rich...
What's the deal with it? Who wote it, how was it written? Is there any way of getting to the code itself?
Is it embedded C? I presume it is...
Rich...
Edited by T350Chunder on Tuesday 16th January 11:24
T350Chunder said:
Can't believe there isn't someone out there that can write an update for this software. It also seems a real shame that the software doesn't make good use of that great big matrix display.
What's the deal with it? Who wote it, how was it written? Is there any way of getting to the code itself?
Is it embedded C? I presume it is...
Rich...
What's the deal with it? Who wote it, how was it written? Is there any way of getting to the code itself?
Is it embedded C? I presume it is...
Rich...
Edited by T350Chunder on Tuesday 16th January 11:24
There is, me for a start. As I have said several times if I had the time I would happily re-write the damn stuff as it annoys the hell out of me, both professionally and as a user. Alas, I dont have the time, but I know ppl that do and when I can divert resources to the issue I will look into getting it done.
The fuel sensor error has only started appearing on my car since it was left standing for a long period outside a TVR garage while I negotiated an engine rebuild. Prior to this I had not seen this error at all. I do agree that the ECU code is buggy and should not report such errors in such a dramatic way. I believe most ECUs allow a minor problem like this to occur multiple times before it is logs it as a problem, and unless it is serious the driver is not made aware of such a problem unless they plug diagnostic equipment into the on board diagnostic port - this is how VAG cars work anyway.
Some issues I have had with my car are due to multiple incorrectly reported errors being displayed on my dash which detract from the actual errors. This makes it sometimes hard to distinguish a spurious error from a real error. One such example was water temperature warnings. I would get these all the time and once cancelled would not appear until an hour or so later but then I am told that I should not ignore such errors...
Some issues I have had with my car are due to multiple incorrectly reported errors being displayed on my dash which detract from the actual errors. This makes it sometimes hard to distinguish a spurious error from a real error. One such example was water temperature warnings. I would get these all the time and once cancelled would not appear until an hour or so later but then I am told that I should not ignore such errors...
NickT said:
The fuel sensor error has only started appearing on my car since it was left standing for a long period outside a TVR garage while I negotiated an engine rebuild. Prior to this I had not seen this error at all. I do agree that the ECU code is buggy and should not report such errors in such a dramatic way. I believe most ECUs allow a minor problem like this to occur multiple times before it is logs it as a problem, and unless it is serious the driver is not made aware of such a problem unless they plug diagnostic equipment into the on board diagnostic port - this is how VAG cars work anyway.
Some issues I have had with my car are due to multiple incorrectly reported errors being displayed on my dash which detract from the actual errors. This makes it sometimes hard to distinguish a spurious error from a real error. One such example was water temperature warnings. I would get these all the time and once cancelled would not appear until an hour or so later but then I am told that I should not ignore such errors...
Some issues I have had with my car are due to multiple incorrectly reported errors being displayed on my dash which detract from the actual errors. This makes it sometimes hard to distinguish a spurious error from a real error. One such example was water temperature warnings. I would get these all the time and once cancelled would not appear until an hour or so later but then I am told that I should not ignore such errors...
Exactly Nick. The water temp warnings is a prime example! Error 128 per chance?
Gassing Station | Tamora, T350 & Sagaris | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff