The West Mids LP640 is...
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....Rumoured to be no more.
Reports comming in of grey LP640 very badly damaged
in four car accident on the Wednesfield Road in
Wolverhampton.
Police have closed the road and i am hope that all
persons involved are safe and well.
How many more of theses cars are going to get damaged!!
Reports comming in of grey LP640 very badly damaged
in four car accident on the Wednesfield Road in
Wolverhampton.
Police have closed the road and i am hope that all
persons involved are safe and well.
How many more of theses cars are going to get damaged!!
Blackpool rocker said:
....Rumoured to be no more.
Reports comming in of grey LP640 very badly damaged
in four car accident on the Wednesfield Road in
Wolverhampton.
Police have closed the road and i am hope that all
persons involved are safe and well.
How many more of theses cars are going to get damaged!!
Reports comming in of grey LP640 very badly damaged
in four car accident on the Wednesfield Road in
Wolverhampton.
Police have closed the road and i am hope that all
persons involved are safe and well.
How many more of theses cars are going to get damaged!!
Another one!!
[Flame suit on] [All just my opinion]
I have to say that this is a problem created by the Murci and Gallardo.
With all due respect to the many lambo owners now on here. There is very little similarity between driving a diablo and a Murci (the second is a much, much more capable and forgiving car) This has lead to a great increase in the number of marque owners.
The LP640 is far more like diablo in power delivery etc. This unreal number of accidents in them is, to some extent, due to 'new owners who have driven something actually quite safe' up till now.....and are well out fo their driving ability in the new one.
(goes away to hide whilst I get told off
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I have to say that this is a problem created by the Murci and Gallardo.
With all due respect to the many lambo owners now on here. There is very little similarity between driving a diablo and a Murci (the second is a much, much more capable and forgiving car) This has lead to a great increase in the number of marque owners.
The LP640 is far more like diablo in power delivery etc. This unreal number of accidents in them is, to some extent, due to 'new owners who have driven something actually quite safe' up till now.....and are well out fo their driving ability in the new one.
(goes away to hide whilst I get told off
)nightmare said:
[Flame suit on] [All just my opinion]
The LP640 is far more like diablo in power delivery etc. This unreal number of accidents in them is, to some extent, due to 'new owners who have driven something actually quite safe' up till now.....and are well out fo their driving ability in the new one.
The LP640 is far more like diablo in power delivery etc. This unreal number of accidents in them is, to some extent, due to 'new owners who have driven something actually quite safe' up till now.....and are well out fo their driving ability in the new one.
I was going to say something broadly similar... Having read numerous test drives for pretty much every supercar on the planet I've got the impression that over the last decade or so supercars have become so easy to drive that a 17 yr old girl could take her test in one. What I've read recently about the LP640 suggests that it is a proper 'bite your face off' extreme machine, like all supercars were in the good old days before things like political correctness and nannystatearianism were invented! Perhaps the LP640, like the Porsche carrera GT, has caught drivers napping, their reflexes having been dulled somewhat by today's relatively soft-edged supercars.
Having never driven anything any near the sort of power we are talking here I can't really appreciate the sort of differences here.
Obviously I can appreciate that a Gallardo is going to be 'easier' to drive than a Diablo but surely something like a Murceilago is not going to be that simple and straight forward to grab by the scruff and take to the limits? Will the power delivery but that different in the LP640 to a Murcie that less educated drivers are taken totally surprise?
I understand that your refering to more safety aids but I doubt either me or a 17 year old girl could jump straight into a Murcielago and drive it safely?
ETA: The one in London was obviously crashed due to numpties, but I am assuming this one was driven by more professional people. I suppose the Stig should also know what he is doing in most cars too....
Obviously I can appreciate that a Gallardo is going to be 'easier' to drive than a Diablo but surely something like a Murceilago is not going to be that simple and straight forward to grab by the scruff and take to the limits? Will the power delivery but that different in the LP640 to a Murcie that less educated drivers are taken totally surprise?
I understand that your refering to more safety aids but I doubt either me or a 17 year old girl could jump straight into a Murcielago and drive it safely?
ETA: The one in London was obviously crashed due to numpties, but I am assuming this one was driven by more professional people. I suppose the Stig should also know what he is doing in most cars too....
Edited by HeavySoul on Monday 11th December 18:08
Can no one with an LP640 drive? Everyone slated that guy driving like a madman on the Gumball and Carbon Black rallys in his LP640, but at least he hasn't put it into a hedge.
I'm hoping some of the new owners will be more talented/better judge of themselves. I'm sure Simonspider falls into this catagory.
I'm hoping some of the new owners will be more talented/better judge of themselves. I'm sure Simonspider falls into this catagory.
HeavySoul said:
Obviously I can appreciate that a Gallardo is going to be 'easier' to drive than a Diablo but surely something like a Murceilago is not going to be that simple and straight forward to grab by the scruff and take to the limits? Will the power delivery but that different in the LP640 to a Murcie that less educated drivers are taken totally surprise?
Admittedly I've only run the LP640 round the block in Monaco...but take-up was massively quicker than the Murci.
It's not outright power so much as power delivery that's the real difference
A (vaguely good) comparitor is the S2 exige. A number of poeple went from a rover engined to the toyota engined car.....the power delivery for the exige includes a second 'sudden' power delivery higher up the range. A number of owners with many elise years experience have stuck em in hedges etc as this caught them napping
HeavySoul said:
I understand that your refering to more safety aids but I doubt either me or a 17 year old girl could jump straight into a Murcielago and drive it safely?
Yes you could would be my argument...it's basically a powerful and fast car, but still like a car...honestly a diablo and a murci are VERY different in character. you can very easily overwhlem all grip and weight distribution with non-judicious application of the right foot in a diablo....much much harder in the murci (clearly this isnt an 'easy car to drive by nissan micra standards and you can crash anything if you try...but still....)
Sharief said:
This makes me sad.
At least Petrol Noggin's won't end up like this... I hope.
At least Petrol Noggin's won't end up like this... I hope.
Does anyone have any decent curse cures around here?
I don't honestly believe it's just the LP640's driving manners and inexperienced drivers causing the crashes (although this could be a contributing factor), I know of at least 4 ferrari crashes (one and F40), and 3 Aston crashes this month alone. Its the road conditions that we experience every year this season, that just so happen to coincide with the early delivery of the most powerful Lamborghini (as far as I'm aware).
There are two 640 owners I know who still have scratch free cars, one admittedly having a tail out, shit the pants moment, but overall have simply adjusted to the driving conditions. I have been used to mainly GT and "wafty" cars, but to be honest had little difficulty living with the 640 on several test drives, the power delivery takes a while to get used to, especially in a manual car where time between changes seems instant, but I found the traction and stance of the car to be incredible and it does warn you before kicking your arse backwards.
To summarise, it's most likely failure to adjust to road conditions with a brand new car (As many have said), and possibly a select few who fail to match brain cells to horsepower- see here www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNvlvt4YB8 and www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZKO6xX-zVQ&mode=related&search=
Looks like the re-sale value of Mine an Si's car is increasing by the day!! 1 of only 4 being delivered to Manchester next year!
But on a serious note, I had a good 20 mile test drive in Lambo Manch's e-gear Demo earlier this year. Bone dry roads, clear dual carrageways, couple of roundabouts etc. The power delivery is far more agrresive than the 'old' murcie and will catch you napping if you let it. I had the tail twitching through a few roundabouts, so i can only imagine what its going to be like if you properly give it the power too early on a wet roundabout etc.
One thing is for certain with this car, it will properly punish you if you a)can't drive and b)don't treat with respect. At the end of the day 640HP is alot of power to put down. Even if it is four wheel drive you can't beat the laws of Physics, hence the reason I think for the recent no of incidents with this car.
One thing is for certain, I certainly wont be able to throw it round Bruntingthorpe like I do the Gallardo. Can't wait to see what it does on the straights though!!
Andy.
But on a serious note, I had a good 20 mile test drive in Lambo Manch's e-gear Demo earlier this year. Bone dry roads, clear dual carrageways, couple of roundabouts etc. The power delivery is far more agrresive than the 'old' murcie and will catch you napping if you let it. I had the tail twitching through a few roundabouts, so i can only imagine what its going to be like if you properly give it the power too early on a wet roundabout etc.
One thing is for certain with this car, it will properly punish you if you a)can't drive and b)don't treat with respect. At the end of the day 640HP is alot of power to put down. Even if it is four wheel drive you can't beat the laws of Physics, hence the reason I think for the recent no of incidents with this car.
One thing is for certain, I certainly wont be able to throw it round Bruntingthorpe like I do the Gallardo. Can't wait to see what it does on the straights though!!
Andy.
Andy - Ed from Rio here. Thought I would catch up with you sooner or later. What I want to know is why do people seem to insist on putting the power down when it's wet? When you've got that much power and not a lot of weight you are going to start sliding. Hopefully will speak to you and Simon soon re track days-
Hi Ed,
Good to hear from you, yes we must catch up soon. The 2007 season is already getting booked up with all the christmas trade. As for people putting the power down too early, I honestly think from experiences at Bruntingthorpe its down to peoples inexperience and lack of respect for what a car like that will do if you get it wrong. I can only imagine what your Koningsess would be like in the wet!
Talk to you soon.
Andy.
Good to hear from you, yes we must catch up soon. The 2007 season is already getting booked up with all the christmas trade. As for people putting the power down too early, I honestly think from experiences at Bruntingthorpe its down to peoples inexperience and lack of respect for what a car like that will do if you get it wrong. I can only imagine what your Koningsess would be like in the wet!
Talk to you soon.
Andy.
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