Want to import a TVR to NZ?

Want to import a TVR to NZ?

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Dan M

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278 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Maybe there is a way....

Autocar UK noted that TVR may have only made 75 cars in 2006 so they could qualify as a low volume vehicle.

That could be irrelevant as here is the important bit:

Land Transport has just issued a consultation paper proposing changes to the frontal impact rule (which effectively bans cars that haven't been crash tested). These changes would allow "unique collectible vehicles" to be imported, subject to conditions. This could pave the way for cars like TVRs to be imported.

Comments can be submitted by email, details here:
www.landtransport.govt.nz/consultation/frontal-impact/

"Unique collectable vehicles
There are a relatively small number of vehicles that have intrinsic value because of their unique, collectable nature. These vehicles are typically in a niche market, and may have been manufactured in very low volumes and are not required to comply with an approved frontal impact standard. Other vehicles may have a strong connection to a historical event or personality, and this fact or some other unique, special circumstance or feature makes them desirable for collectors. They are highly valued by their owners and typically add to the historic nature of the fleet.

It is proposed that the entry into New Zealand of vehicles qualifying as unique collectable vehicles that do not comply with an approved frontal impact standard be subject to the conditions set out in Schedule 2 of the proposed amendment Rule.

This would ensure their eligibility to enter New Zealand and to be registered for use on our roads.

The proposed amendment Rule would apply to anyone who wishes to bring into New Zealand a vehicle that is or may be listed as a unique collectable vehicle.

Schedule 2, Conditions for a person intending to have a vehicle recognised as a unique collectable vehicle
1. The applicant must prove that he or she is a New Zealand citizen or New Zealand resident, or is legally entitled to take up permanent residence in New Zealand.

2. The applicant must demonstrate to the Director or to an organisation appointed by the Director that the vehicle is appropriate for consideration as a unique collectable vehicle."

Dan

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Must get on to that over Christmas

LTNZ Website said:
Please note the deadline for submissions is: 9 February 2007

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Hmm, Speed 12 Auction ends 16th December!!

Dan M

Original Poster:

278 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Oh, and I 'forgot' to say, I work at Land Transport, not that I am ashamed or anything...

I wish they had changed this a year ago so I could have kept my Chimaera.

Dan

Esprit

6,370 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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This could be very interesting... seems that they're considering dropping the "low volume" thing and just having a qualitative measure where you can pitch to them that your vehicle is "unique" or "collectable" and take it from there.... basically given that most of the people importing such vehicles use them sparingly and carefully (not many people would use a Noble or a TVR as a daily driver)... what they must protect against is people claiming some of the more mundane jappa stuff as collectable to let in cheap hordes of turbobanzaiwagons.

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Esprit said:
This could be very interesting... seems that they're considering dropping the "low volume" thing and just having a qualitative measure where you can pitch to them that your vehicle is "unique" or "collectable" and take it from there....

we would need to use the Murray Walker definition of "unique" rofl

"qualitative" confused

"subjective" banghead

"binding determination prior to importation" judge

zaphod

256 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Hi Dan
So you made it over here OK? Are you on the coast? If so, let's grab a beer sometime over Xmas. I'll PM you.

Anyway - that all looks great news - the furthest I have driven the Chimp this year is down to the end of the drive and back to the garage - all of 20 metres. Having a rather unfriendly copper next door has put paid to any chance of an occassional "road test".

Cheers
Richard

Esprit

6,370 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Richard.. you need to sneak it out under the quietness of darkness... tow it to the end of the street so the TVR thunder doesn't wake him up!

Dan M

Original Poster:

278 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Hi Richard

A beer would be great, I will give you a call. We did buy a place on the coast, a beach bach in Raumati Beach that is currently half renovated.

Dan

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Monday 25th December 2006
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Looks like production for 2007 might be closer to ZERO.

I would have (naively) thought that with appropriate investment and good management the TVR formula couldn't miss confused

robdickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Monday 25th December 2006
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They moved upmarket and installed the AJP6, without a nod to quality or reliability. Stupid move but all done now by the sounds of it.

zaphod

256 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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Kiwi XTR2 said:
Must get on to that over Christmas

LTNZ Website said:
Please note the deadline for submissions is: 9 February 2007


Bump...

Happy New Year everyone. Just a reminder that the deadline for submissions is approaching. Would be great to get lots of positive submissions in there.

Cheers
Richard

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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zaphod said:
Kiwi XTR2 said:
Must get on to that over Christmas

LTNZ Website said:
Please note the deadline for submissions is: 9 February 2007


Bump...

Happy New Year everyone. Just a reminder that the deadline for submissions is approaching. Would be great to get lots of positive submissions in there.

Cheers
Richard


Haven't done a thing about it . . . yet type

Dan M

Original Poster:

278 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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Lots of submissions is good.

Your ideas on how such a system might work will be interesting as there are many options and my personal view is that it needs to strike the balance between being unrealistically strict and opening the floodgates for lots of low value non-frontal impact compliant vehicles to enter.

For instance, is a "special edition" 1995 Celica any less eligible than a "standard" 1995 Chimaera? What criteria could be used to decide?

Australia have their SEVS scheme where they allow cars in that were not available to buy readily in Australia. There is a list online of eligible cars and also a list of ineligible ones with the reasons why.

Dan

htsd

263 posts

241 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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The SEVS scheme isn't all that bad. You gain approval for a particular model as opposed to any variation therein (motor, trim etc). Further reading below...

www.dotars.gov.au/roads/motor/sevs/pdf/Circular0-2-12.pdf

http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/s

Dan M

Original Poster:

278 posts

284 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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<Nudge>

Just a reminder that the deadline for submissions is this Friday. The more interest in this scheme from individual enthusiasts the better.

I think this scheme may be more relevant for the future if NZ legislation is tightened further - like the proposal in the US that all new cars must be fitted with ESC from 2012.

Remember too that there are quite a few cars in NZ that were imported and can't be registered, this could be a way for them to get on the road.

Dan

Ffirg 005

2,009 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Thanks for the nudge Dan - just submitted my 653 words on the subject readit

Dan M

Original Poster:

278 posts

284 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Thanks, response has been low so individual contributions will actually make a big difference.

Dan