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Denis O

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2,141 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Well it's happened. Haven't used the car for about a month and went to get in it this morning and the battery is as flat as a very flat thing. Not even enough power to turn on the interior light!!!! New official Porsche battery about 6 months ago.

Of course there is no power to open the boot or bonnet to get to the terminals or battery so a quick call to Tonbridge OPC and they suggest taking the panel around the boot and bonnet handles off to release the central locking. Once the battery is out I then have to deep charge it for 3 days to get it back in tip top condition. I questioned them about the emergency handle under the nearside wheel arch but was advised it's difficult to locate when the car is on the ground.

I'm off for a few days over Xmas so it can wait till I get back but I have now put a battery conditioner on Santa's list so it doesn't happen again.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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if its a 3.6 theres a live terminal in the fuse box, plus connect to door check strap for negative, to power the lock solenoids to open boot/bonnet or even slow charge.

if its a 3.4 then 5mm (IIRC) allen key. remove 3 little bungs in cover - (if its electric seats pain in the ar3e - seat in way and you cant move it - you will need to be able to cut 1/2 inch off your allen key !) - loosen bolts DONT REMOVE - and the whole unit lifts relatively easily - first time might need a bit of a tug. facing outwards you'll see the lock mechanism - just pull aside with your finger and pull boot/bonnet release. sh1test design ever...

tjdixon911

1,911 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Mines been sat for a Month and a half now, but luckily its on a C-Tek conditioner so I shouldn't have the same problem! Although I did have the same problem last year!

Roll on the New year so I can get it taxed and out the garage again

Denis O

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2,141 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Cheers Francis. It is a 3.4 so it's the allen key method.
I just had a quick look and found the 3 bungs but can't be arsed to do it today.
Thankfully only the seat back is electric so I'll not have the problems you refer to.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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In Total911 this month there is a device on test which is a small solar panel which plugs into the cigar lighter.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

30 sheets IIRC.

fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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mine was sat for about 10 days in the garage, started first time yesterday...

what's the sort of life of the batteries then?

Denis O

Original Poster:

2,141 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Vesuvius 996 said:

In Total911 this month there is a device on test which is a small solar panel which plugs into the cigar lighter.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

30 sheets IIRC.


It's probably a bit dark in moi garage for one of those to work unless of course i run the lead outside.

Once I'm back up and running I'll get an Optimate or similar.

pikey

7,704 posts

314 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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My Cayman (and I think 997s) turn the alarm receiver off after 7 days to preserve power. Longest it's been without use is 4 weeks and was fine.

Denis O

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2,141 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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fidgits said:
mine was sat for about 10 days in the garage, started first time yesterday...

what's the sort of life of the batteries then?


OPC Tonbridge reckon a good battery will flatten in a couple of weeks at this time of year if you don't use a conditioner.........so good job you didn't wait another 4 days

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Vesuvius 996 said:

In Total911 this month there is a device on test which is a small solar panel which plugs into the cigar lighter.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

30 sheets IIRC.
Nice idea / concept. I've got one in the SL. However, as I've found, you MUST keep the windows clear of rainwater and tree detritus for them to be 100% effective. Mine keeps the SL ticking over, but of late with the shorter days it can't generate enough juice, so its whip the battery out time and bench it with a trickle charger like an Accumate.

At £100 a go for a new battery, its a good idea though.

9hellheaven

1,595 posts

239 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Just a quicky tip..dont start to charge your battery if the outside temp plummits. This is not good.
Take the battery off the car and stick it in your house for a couple of days to get it upto temp then charge it.
Maybe stick it under the Christmas tree..nice touch.
I have a 997s and I have the porsche charger (same exactly as ctek) but more money naturally. That just plugs into the ciggy lighter, or is that now called the battery charging hole?? Everyone tells me that older cars are reliable?? So if you park you car at the airport and go sking for two weeks your knackerd then!? Good anti-theft device, even if it only works after two weeks!!!All good fun eah..

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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Denis O said:

OPC Tonbridge reckon a good battery will flatten in a couple of weeks at this time of year if you don't use a conditioner.........so good job you didn't wait another 4 days


What exactly do they base this on ?
A £70k car has a battery that is exhausted in 2 weeks ?
A 70amp hour battery.
Do the electrons just run for it taking all the potential difference from the battery?
Where's the current flowing in a car that switches the alarm off in 5 days ?
Ive never heard such tosh.

V=IR


Edited by stuttgartmetal on Wednesday 20th December 07:41

tjdixon911

1,911 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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9hellheaven said:
Just a quicky tip..dont start to charge your battery if the outside temp plummits. This is not good.
Take the battery off the car and stick it in your house for a couple of days to get it upto temp then charge it.
Maybe stick it under the Christmas tree..nice touch.
I have a 997s and I have the porsche charger (same exactly as ctek) but more money naturally. That just plugs into the ciggy lighter, or is that now called the battery charging hole?? Everyone tells me that older cars are reliable?? So if you park you car at the airport and go sking for two weeks your knackerd then!? Good anti-theft device, even if it only works after two weeks!!!All good fun eah..


The C-tek plugs directly to the Battery, it comes with a connector plug (like radio control car battery connectors) which you can hard wire onto the Battery/ground positions. I have found this very good so far and have had no Problems!

Where you say don't start to charge the battery when cold, I assume it is ok if its charging now but started when it was warmer? If you know what I mean?

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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stuttgartmetal said:
Denis O said:

OPC Tonbridge reckon a good battery will flatten in a couple of weeks at this time of year if you don't use a conditioner.........so good job you didn't wait another 4 days


What exactly do they base this on ?
A £70k car has a battery that is exhausted in 2 weeks ?
A 70amp hour battery.
Do the electrons just run for it taking all the potential difference from the battery?
Where's the current flowing in a car that switches the alarm off in 5 days ?
Ive never heard such tosh.

V=IR


Edited by stuttgartmetal on Wednesday 20th December 07:41
The alarm drains it.

My SL does the same, and thats a 100ah battery. It lasts about 2-3 weeks.

nel

4,830 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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If the battery has got flat enough to not even power up the interior light then you'll probably find that it's knackered and won't hold a charge properly, even after conditioning. You might have to add to your xmas present list....

One tip - when you go to buy a new battery, measure up the existing one and the orientation of the terminals, then buy the biggest Ah rating battery you can find that will fit.

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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nel said:
If the battery has got flat enough to not even power up the interior light then you'll probably find that it's knackered and won't hold a charge properly, even after conditioning. You might have to add to your xmas present list....

One tip - when you go to buy a new battery, measure up the existing one and the orientation of the terminals, then buy the biggest Ah rating battery you can find that will fit.


Not bad advice Nel, Id thoroughly agree with the first bit. If your battery doesn't hold the charge, get yourself down to German and Swedish, or at least a Bosch dealer, and buy a new one. They are usually 68 or 70 a/h [ amp/hour ] batteries. Bosch is the battery of choice IMO.
These cars are cold and hot temp tested pre production.
They are built for the cold wastelands of Deutchland, come on, dead in 2 weeks FFS ?
Anything more than 70 a/h overloads your alternator.
Stick to what the eggheads at Zuffenhausen recommend.
Some twonk in a shiny suit in OPC Tewkesbury recommends a conditoner if your battery doesn't last 2 weeks ? Yeah right.