Potential Vmax venue

Potential Vmax venue

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NSXKeith

Original Poster:

190 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Hi guys,

I've just seen this Vmax section and wondered what kind of venues you use at the moment?
How long are the runways?
Is that length from a standing start or a run-up from the taxiway?
And finally how much are you charged to hire the venue?

The reason I'm asking is that I organise the track days at RAF Marham and there may be some potential for me to host a Vmax run for you guys. Although it's a little more complicated being a front-line RAF base, it may be possible to sort something out over a weekend.

The runway is 1.5 miles long but has a 80mph+ run-on from the taxiway. The surface is smooth tarmac for the whole length but I'm guessing the biggest atraction is the noise limits - there are none!

Interested to hear more so grateful for any response.

Cheers

Keith

leon S

201 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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NSXKeith said:
Hi guys,

I've just seen this Vmax section and wondered what kind of venues you use at the moment?
How long are the runways?
Is that length from a standing start or a run-up from the taxiway?
And finally how much are you charged to hire the venue?

The reason I'm asking is that I organise the track days at RAF Marham and there may be some potential for me to host a Vmax run for you guys. Although it's a little more complicated being a front-line RAF base, it may be possible to sort something out over a weekend.

The runway is 1.5 miles long but has a 80mph+ run-on from the taxiway. The surface is smooth tarmac for the whole length but I'm guessing the biggest atraction is the noise limits - there are none!

Interested to hear more so grateful for any response.

Cheers

Keith


Keith, are you santa?? cos you're gonna make a few people very happy..

Davey S2

13,096 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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VMAX is always run at Bruntingthorpe at the moment Keith but I'm sure there would be a lot of interest in another venue, especially if there are no noise limits.

Bruntingthorpe used to be npise limit free but now they have had to introduce limits due to complaints from the council. As a result a lot of the exotica have had to stop going to VMAX.

Drop an email to Craigw who organises it.

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Is 1.5 miles going to be enough however?

Am I right in thinking that Brunters is 2 miles long?

If you take that as the equation, then I'd hazard 1.5 miles to not be that long enough, once you've added in the braking zone and traps etc.

If it is, definitly see what Craig has to say - may well be a goer.

jeremyc

23,502 posts

285 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Of course it could all hinge on the availability of a suitable 'Burger du Rat' purveyour .... burger hehe

markbe

1,755 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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neil_cardiff said:
Is 1.5 miles going to be enough however?

Am I right in thinking that Brunters is 2 miles long?

If you take that as the equation, then I'd hazard 1.5 miles to not be that long enough, once you've added in the braking zone and traps etc.

If it is, definitly see what Craig has to say - may well be a goer.


Hi Neil, at Bruntingthorpe you have 1.55 miles to the timing traps then .4 mileish to stop
so approx two miles.

Mark.

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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markbe said:
neil_cardiff said:
Is 1.5 miles going to be enough however?

Am I right in thinking that Brunters is 2 miles long?

If you take that as the equation, then I'd hazard 1.5 miles to not be that long enough, once you've added in the braking zone and traps etc.

If it is, definitly see what Craig has to say - may well be a goer.


Hi Neil, at Bruntingthorpe you have 1.55 miles to the timing traps then .4 mileish to stop
so approx two miles.

Mark.


thumbup Thought it was something like that...

Would you say that 1.5 miles be too short? Not so much for the fact that the more powerful cars could probably hit VMax in that, but for the braking safety?



markbe

1,755 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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neil_cardiff said:
markbe said:
neil_cardiff said:
Is 1.5 miles going to be enough however?

Am I right in thinking that Brunters is 2 miles long?

If you take that as the equation, then I'd hazard 1.5 miles to not be that long enough, once you've added in the braking zone and traps etc.

If it is, definitly see what Craig has to say - may well be a goer.


Hi Neil, at Bruntingthorpe you have 1.55 miles to the timing traps then .4 mileish to stop
so approx two miles.

Mark.


thumbup Thought it was something like that...

Would you say that 1.5 miles be too short? Not so much for the fact that the more powerful cars could probably hit VMax in that, but for the braking safety?





I would say the braking area would be .4 of a mile leaving 1.1 miles for acceleration, max speeds would be down say 10mph.

Mark.

Ps If I was going to Kings Lynn I would want a 3 mile runway.hehe

craigw

12,248 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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keith, could I come up & do a recce sometime pls?

GuyR

2,206 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Craig,

If you want to do a recce, do you need a test car

Guy

oggs

8,813 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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GuyR said:

Craig,

If you want to do a recce, do you need a test car

Guy


hehe

Ruxpin

324 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Shame they shortened it at some point - looks like it was originally a similar length to Brunters

craigw

12,248 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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hahaha

GuyR

2,206 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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I've just measured the runway length on Google Earth.

The main runway (the asphalt part) is indeed 1.4 miles, but the full length, including the concrete aprons is 1.7miles.

If the aprons were available for starting and braking, then that would be a really good length, with a great surface. Not quite as long as Brunters (which is 1.93miles full but only 1.79 miles to the right-hand exit road at the cones), but with no sounds restrictions it could be a good venue.

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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GuyR said:

I've just measured the runway length on Google Earth.

The main runway (the asphalt part) is indeed 1.4 miles, but the full length, including the concrete aprons is 1.7miles.

If the aprons were available for starting and braking, then that would be a really good length, with a great surface. Not quite as long as Brunters (which is 1.93miles full but only 1.79 miles to the right-hand exit road at the cones), but with no sounds restrictions it could be a good venue.


Not an awful lot of fun of the way back round though

tony_666

3,160 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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I did a trackday there with Keith earlier this year and it was excellent!! I got the impression that the length was only marginally shorter than Brunters, but the following corner was more forgiving than at Brunters so braking could be left a lot later!!!

...oh, and as for the "ratburger" quality, I can also vouch for that ....excellent nosh rustled up by the RAF chefs!!!

tony_666

3,160 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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neil_cardiff said:
Not an awful lot of fun of the way back round though
....I disagree ...loads of fun on the way back.

Seasider

12,728 posts

250 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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tony_666 said:


...oh, and as for the "ratburger" quality, I can also vouch for that ....excellent nosh rustled up by the RAF chefs!!!
yes Agreed & on the day i went they also had some candy helping out

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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tony_666 said:
neil_cardiff said:
Not an awful lot of fun of the way back round though
....I disagree ...loads of fun on the way back.

I stand corrected

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Is The Marham track surface more forgiving than at Brunters as well? If so, I can't see a downside really.



Edited: Marham's Mission Statement.

Mission Statement:
"Our Mission is to provide and support Offensive Airpower"

I loooooooove it! Cos we fit right in by providing the Offensive Landpower! evil hehe

Edited by anniesdad on Thursday 21st December 12:58