Poor start after fueling problem...
Poor start after fueling problem...
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jeffsy

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5,603 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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I had this with both the old and new versions of my Griff...

I dont have a problem starting per se however after filling up the car starts but then stalls if I dont ride the accelerator. If it stalls then its a sod to restart and in either case it runs like a bag of nails for approx 1/4 of a mile before settling down.

As I say i had this with the old engine so I guess its a fuelling problem. The only thing I can think of is when the filler cap is released the vacuum is released and maybe the fuel drains back?

Any suggestions? (Happy New Year to all btw...)

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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I'd suggest checking your Carbon Cannister is venting the tank. The petrol vent pipe runs all the way down the chassis and may be blocked / trapped, or the cannister itself is full (indicating you are not purgeing correctly). search carbon cannister or evaporative emmissions control will lead to quite a lot of info. PITA to get to but the source of many smelly front wings.

Dave

DarkMatter

1,503 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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spend said:
...PITA to get to but the source of many smelly front wings...

That's interesting, do you mean it causes a smell of fuel or something else? My Griff smells, it's a bit like stale water but I've never noticed any water entering the cockpit despite heavy rain.
Andrew.

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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DarkMatter said:
spend said:
...PITA to get to but the source of many smelly front wings...

That's interesting, do you mean it causes a smell of fuel or something else? My Griff smells, it's a bit like stale water but I've never noticed any water entering the cockpit despite heavy rain.
Andrew.


Nah suspect carbon can if you can sniff petrol fumes thru the grill. Sounds more like stagnant water in your case. Have a good sniff round the front of the car.

Dont know for sure, but it seems there should be drain holes for the front undertray, which are not always working... Whether they never got made (at factory) / got silted up / painted over is open to interpretation. The inside of the tray is not designed to be a bath tub (personally suspect a lot of the front earth problems could be due to this).

Dave

DarkMatter

1,503 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2007
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spend said:
... Dont know for sure, but it seems there should be drain holes for the front undertray, which are not always working... Whether they never got made (at factory) / got silted up / painted over is open to interpretation. The inside of the tray is not designed to be a bath tub (personally suspect a lot of the front earth problems could be due to this).

Thanks for the info Dave. I'll have a look around for drain holes.

Andrew.

mrcosmos

653 posts

240 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Hi Graham,how did you go on with your fueling problem ? .Just seen your thread from a few days ago. Might be worth checking the connections on the purge valve if the fault has always been there.I think wire colours are slate/yellow,white/purple.Check for loose or coroded terminals on the valve.Regards.Dave J.

Pasco

6,652 posts

257 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Hello Big Lad,

Are you sorted now Graham ?

Do you get any Boings when you start the Beast up from the petrol tank area ?

This would suggest carbon filter blockage matty Boy yes

Pasco

jeffsy

Original Poster:

5,603 posts

256 months

Sunday 7th January 2007
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Cheers boys - its in hand. Interestingly it didnt blooming happen when I filled up the other day. Also for the first time ever I didnt fill the tank brim full - rather I stopped at the first click...shouldnt really have any bearing but you never know.

Anyway more interestingly I got stopped by plod cop on Friday as my Tiv was "too loud"...apparently it was "vibrating our car when we were behind you sir" rofl. Guy was really nice and I couldnt resist a "good though isnt it?" to which he smiled. He said it was loud even allowing for the fact it was a TVR hehe

I started a thread on the Plod and the Law section on here and the outcome appears to be that its fine to have a new loud engine (as long as one doesnt excessively rev and get an ASBO), fine to fit an aftermarket silencer (even if its louder) and but not so fine to take out the baffles and fit a straight through pipe nono

Soo..cherry bomb time methinks!! PS Still reckon it might be a tad louder than yours come Growl time Pasc

john p

199 posts

246 months

Sunday 7th January 2007
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I heard your Griff at the Bulls Head last month,it sounds awesome,you can feel the air around you move when you start it up.I've had similar issues with my Chim including the tank going "boing" every now and again,must get round to checking that carbon thingy.

Pasco

6,652 posts

257 months

Sunday 7th January 2007
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Soo..cherry bomb time methinks!! PS Still reckon it might be a tad louder than yours come Growl time Pasc [/quote].





Lets see shell we Big Boy hehe

Pasco

jeffsy

Original Poster:

5,603 posts

256 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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Pasco said:
Soo..cherry bomb time methinks!! PS Still reckon it might be a tad louder than yours come Growl time Pasc
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Lets see shell we Big Boy hehe

Pasco
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ears yes

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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jeffsy said:
Soo..cherry bomb time methinks!! PS Still reckon it might be a tad louder than yours come Growl time Pasc
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pasco said:

Lets see shell we Big Boy hehe

Pasco

jeffsy said:

ears yes


Paul,it's like a bl**by spitfirre on full chat!!When he came to our house recently,i heard him coming 5 mins before he arrivedyikeshehe

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th January 2007
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When he came to our house recently,i heard him coming 5 mins before he arrivedyikeshehe[/quote]

Oooeeer missus!!
FFG