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I were to buy a brand new TVR, out of these three, which would be the quickest 0-60 and which would be the most expensive as standard?
Chimaera 450 is it?, Cerbera 4.0?,Blackpool Griffith? Or are there many different engine sizes for these three?
Sorry if I sound like a fool but I just want to learn more about TVR's.
Chimaera 450 is it?, Cerbera 4.0?,Blackpool Griffith? Or are there many different engine sizes for these three?
Sorry if I sound like a fool but I just want to learn more about TVR's.
The Tamora and Tesco are powered by an Engine similar to the 4.0 Cerbera - it is the speed 6.
In a straight line there wouldn't be much in it (seemed very close when Alt and I gave a bit of boot on the way back from Meriden anyway), but the Tamora benefits from TVR's more recent bias towards tighter handling in their cars to match the power that they deliver out of the box (so to speak).
All IMO of course.
In a straight line there wouldn't be much in it (seemed very close when Alt and I gave a bit of boot on the way back from Meriden anyway), but the Tamora benefits from TVR's more recent bias towards tighter handling in their cars to match the power that they deliver out of the box (so to speak).
All IMO of course.
madasahatter said: The Tamora and Tesco are powered by an Engine similar to the 4.0 Cerbera - it is the speed 6.
In a straight line there wouldn't be much in it (seemed very close when Alt and I gave a bit of boot on the way back from Meriden anyway), but the Tamora benefits from TVR's more recent bias towards tighter handling in their cars to match the power that they deliver out of the box (so to speak).
All IMO of course.
Does this include the Speed twelve? There seem to be many variants I sometimes get confused. So basically, the Tamora is the best handling TVR but something like the Tuscan might be quicker in a straight line? And is the Tuscan Speed twelve the quickest, if so what is it's 0-60?
Tuscan Speed Twelve doesn't exist AFAIK.
The Speed 12 engine only made it into one car (although I stand to be corrected), and that was the Cerbera GT Racer.
It wasn't really a production car, and although it may be possible to buy one of the couple of cars that have the engine, you wouldn't be able to drive it on the road for lots of reasons - Rose Jointed Suspension being one of those reasons.
As for the performance of that Car - I have no idea, but very quick indeed - over 200mph top end no probs.
Tuscans CAN be quicker than Tamoras, since the Tuscan S has a 390BHp variant of the Speed 6 engine.
Bet I've been beaten to the answer again......
The Speed 12 engine only made it into one car (although I stand to be corrected), and that was the Cerbera GT Racer.
It wasn't really a production car, and although it may be possible to buy one of the couple of cars that have the engine, you wouldn't be able to drive it on the road for lots of reasons - Rose Jointed Suspension being one of those reasons.
As for the performance of that Car - I have no idea, but very quick indeed - over 200mph top end no probs.
Tuscans CAN be quicker than Tamoras, since the Tuscan S has a 390BHp variant of the Speed 6 engine.
Bet I've been beaten to the answer again......
New Tuscans are available as
3.6 litre 350 bhp
4.0 litre 360 bhp (special order I think) and
4.0 litre 390 bhp known as Tuscan S
All straight 6 engines known as the Speed 6.
Second hand you could also acquire a Tuscan "Red Rose" which has a 4.0 litre 380bhp engine.
Brakes and suspension vary a bit throughout the range.
Also available is the Tuscan R now renamed the T400R and T440R due to the different power outputs available.
I hope that helps.
>> Edited by suggs on Friday 4th April 13:27
3.6 litre 350 bhp
4.0 litre 360 bhp (special order I think) and
4.0 litre 390 bhp known as Tuscan S
All straight 6 engines known as the Speed 6.
Second hand you could also acquire a Tuscan "Red Rose" which has a 4.0 litre 380bhp engine.
Brakes and suspension vary a bit throughout the range.
Also available is the Tuscan R now renamed the T400R and T440R due to the different power outputs available.
I hope that helps.
>> Edited by suggs on Friday 4th April 13:27
anarchystorm said: Can anyone else conform that there isnt a Tuscan speed twelve? What verions of the Tuscan are there and at what price do they start?
For prices I think you should look at the TVR web site: www.tvr.co.uk and as far as the speed12 goes Peter Wheeler built one roadgoing version a few years ago, drove it home and decided it was too powerful for a road car (over 900bhp). So no further roadcars were built, I believe the original one is somewhere at TVR still.
Edited to add: Of the three you originally mentioned, Cerbera, Griffith and Chimaera, the Griffith is no longer available and the Chimaera is in the process of being dropped if not already gone.
Engines:
Griffith - 4.0 around 200 bhp, 4.3 around 240 bhp and 5.0 around 280-300 bhp (all realistic not marketing)
Chimaera - as Griffith but include a 4.5 around 250 bhp.
Both the above cars used versions of the Rover V8 engine
Cerbera - 4.2 AJP V8 around 350 bhp, 4.5 AJP V8 around 350 bhp and 4.0 TVR S6 around 350 bhp, although the V8 cars are a bit faster due to better torque.
I hope this helps a bit.
>> Edited by kevinday on Friday 4th April 13:57
So the TVR's are mainly a ford interior and gearbox with a rover engine?!!
Still, they are a lovely car and would be a dream of mine when I leave the hatchback years, currently owning a Pug 205 1.9 Gti and Mk1 Golf Gti with Mk2 engine and running gera. Selling the Pug and then one day when I sell the Golf I will need to move into a category where TVR's are a must. I am still only 23 though so many more years to come.
Still, they are a lovely car and would be a dream of mine when I leave the hatchback years, currently owning a Pug 205 1.9 Gti and Mk1 Golf Gti with Mk2 engine and running gera. Selling the Pug and then one day when I sell the Golf I will need to move into a category where TVR's are a must. I am still only 23 though so many more years to come.
Cerbera have an AJP engine, which is TVR designed and built. It has a lighter flywheel, and seems a lot freer revving than the Rover V8 engines, and develops more power for the same cubic capacity.
Also has a flat plane crank, which makes it sound more like two 4 cylinder bike engines than the wurfle-y V8 From Rover.
Ford interior? If it is, I cannot see any Ford parts inside mine.....
Also has a flat plane crank, which makes it sound more like two 4 cylinder bike engines than the wurfle-y V8 From Rover.
Ford interior? If it is, I cannot see any Ford parts inside mine.....
Anarchy:
You could always make an entry-level move into TVR now and buy one of the Wedge cars (taste permitting ;-) - there are some cheap 350i's around now, and even a 400SE can be had for not much... relatively speaking.
Mind you, your Golf would give my 390SE a run, and I know because it's happened before! You really do need one of the recent TVR models to see off most hot hatches nowadays, however you tend to find a lot of TVR owners are mad about the cars for reasons other than top speed or acceleration: it's the buzz of having something that very few other people own - more so for the older cars which were sometimes only made in numbers as few as 50 - 100, whereas the Chimaera (say) is around in thousands now.
Ian
'87 390SE
Teesside
You could always make an entry-level move into TVR now and buy one of the Wedge cars (taste permitting ;-) - there are some cheap 350i's around now, and even a 400SE can be had for not much... relatively speaking.
Mind you, your Golf would give my 390SE a run, and I know because it's happened before! You really do need one of the recent TVR models to see off most hot hatches nowadays, however you tend to find a lot of TVR owners are mad about the cars for reasons other than top speed or acceleration: it's the buzz of having something that very few other people own - more so for the older cars which were sometimes only made in numbers as few as 50 - 100, whereas the Chimaera (say) is around in thousands now.
Ian
'87 390SE
Teesside
Well older TVR's (including Griff and Chimp) had some Ford and some GM parts both mechanically and cosmetically as well as the Rover engine/box.
For example the early Griff ignition and stearing column switches etc are pure Vauxhall from the 80's and early 90's. Rear lights are either Vauxhall or Ford. Whilst brakes are Ford.
Cerbera, Tuscan and Tamora are all TVR own design interiors. IMHO the Cerbie has the best interior of any car ever made. It's just a shame it's a hardtop and so expensive too maintain.
For example the early Griff ignition and stearing column switches etc are pure Vauxhall from the 80's and early 90's. Rear lights are either Vauxhall or Ford. Whilst brakes are Ford.
Cerbera, Tuscan and Tamora are all TVR own design interiors. IMHO the Cerbie has the best interior of any car ever made. It's just a shame it's a hardtop and so expensive too maintain.
wedg1e said: Anarchy:
You could always make an entry-level move into TVR now and buy one of the Wedge cars (taste permitting ;-) - there are some cheap 350i's around now, and even a 400SE can be had for not much... relatively speaking.
Mind you, your Golf would give my 390SE a run, and I know because it's happened before! You really do need one of the recent TVR models to see off most hot hatches nowadays, however you tend to find a lot of TVR owners are mad about the cars for reasons other than top speed or acceleration: it's the buzz of having something that very few other people own - more so for the older cars which were sometimes only made in numbers as few as 50 - 100, whereas the Chimaera (say) is around in thousands now.
Ian
'87 390SE
Teesside
Yeah, I can stay behind the old TVR's for a while but their raw power down the straights beats my Pug - I ahve hardly driven the Golf but it's definately quicker than my Pug.
My Golf is something different - not just bothered about top end or acceleration but it does help!
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