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[hollowpockets]

this morning was in court for my case of 107.4 mph on the M6 near penrith, was given a ban of 21 days, fined £275 which seemed fair enough, they said they would endorse my licence and send it back to me, but no mention of points at all, does this mean i wont recieve any points? and if i do, will they count in the totting up proceedure if iv had my ban.

cheers

[Lurking Lawyer]

Doesn't sound like you got any points.

However, if you did, they would stay on your licence and count towards totting up for the next year 3 years. I think they only get wiped out if you get banned under the totting up rule for having reached 12 points in a given three year period.

ETA: The endorsement will be in respect of the ban - that is entered on the licence in the same way as if you had, for instance, got 3 points for an SP30 following a Fixed Penalty Notice.

Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Monday 15th January 16:30

[10 Pence Short]

If you're banned as you have been, you don't get any points. I was banned for 28 days in 1998 for speeding on the A66 near Barnard Castle. Same thing happened to me.

Oh, and your name will be in next weeks Westmorland Herald!!

[Parrot of Doom]

I'd say thats a pretty damn good result tbh.

[hollowpockets]

sounds good, yes i agree

i really couldnt have hoped for any better, thanks to those for the pointers and replys in november when i first posted about my offence, as they did help.

graham

[leosayer]

So what is worse, 9 points or a short ban, insurance wise?

[hollowpockets]

depends what insurance company you use i'd guess

[James B]

Glad you got a decent result. My bro was hit with a 3 month ban, but smaller fine than you, when caught at 104.5 by Perth. He pretty much had the book thrown at him as he was only 21 too.

Hope the insurers aren't too bad about it.

If you need a lift anytime to town (or work) feel free to ask. Only downside is that you'll have to brave the Smart

James

[nail_it]

hollowpockets said:

this morning was in court for my case of 107.4 mph on the M6 near penrith, was given a ban of 21 days, fined £275 which seemed fair enough, they said they would endorse my licence and send it back to me, but no mention of points at all, does this mean i wont recieve any points? and if i do, will they count in the totting up proceedure if iv had my ban.

cheers

Good result m8 and not a hefty fine

A ban does not incur penalty points
Penalty points would only be incurred if you had been answering other charges.

Better to accept a short ban than ie 6 - 9 penalty points. Often "played" that way when presenting the case to the mags.
Otherwise, by accepting penalty points the "totting-up" procedure could have incurred a ban + fine & in the long term a worse situation for you.

Edited by nail_it on Monday 15th January 22:14

[herewego]

How long a ban do you get through a build up of points? Is it fixed?

Edited by herewego on Tuesday 16th January 11:59

[nobleguy]

10 Pence Short said:

If you're banned as you have been, you don't get any points. I was banned for 28 days in 1998 for speeding on the A66 near Barnard Castle. Same thing happened to me.

Oh, and your name will be in next weeks Westmorland Herald!!

I thought that when banned for 55 days (106mph - nice to see the consistency) - got my license back with no points. About 18 months later, when swapping my paper license for a photo version I got it back with 6 points on it all of a sudden. The court never mentioned it, but the court records show the points were given. I'd double-check with the DVLA.

[nobleguy]

hollowpockets said:

depends what insurance company you use i'd guess

When I phoned Direct Line to let them know, when I queried the fact that the insurance hadn't gone up at all the guy on the phone said "Well, it was only speeding wasn't it?". You might get lucky.

[hollowpockets]

just to confirm i phoned the solicitor again, she has confirmed that no points are given because i was disqualified as punishment instead of points

[nobleguy]

hollowpockets said:

just to confirm i phoned the solicitor again, she has confirmed that no points are given because i was disqualified as punishment instead of points

Does that mean they can't do both, or just didn't in your case?
I had to go to Selby court (apparently one of the two harshest courts in the UK).
Super.....

[hollowpockets]

i couldnt say to be sure but from what i gathered it was one or the other, not both.

[nail_it]

hollowpockets said:

just to confirm i phoned the solicitor again, she has confirmed that no points are given because i was disqualified as punishment instead of points

Hope she explained you cannot drive until 12.01am on Tuesday 6th February not Monday 5th.

[hollowpockets]

actually she didnt explain that, i did wonder if it was the 5th or the 6th i'd be able to drive again, will just wait till the 6th,

[nail_it]

hollowpockets said:

actually she didnt explain that, i did wonder if it was the 5th or the 6th i'd be able to drive again, will just wait till the 6th,

Frequently omitted

betcha got all 4 wheels back on the tarmac at 12.01am on the 6th

[TheKeyboardDemon]

Sorry to revive an old thread, it seemed to make more sense than starting a new 1.

If someone is given a ban for say 21 days, do they need to inform their insurance company, particularly if not points were given?

[vonhosen]

TheKeyboardDemon said:

Sorry to revive an old thread, it seemed to make more sense than starting a new 1.

If someone is given a ban for say 21 days, do they need to inform their insurance company, particularly if not points were given?

Yes