Paint protection advise plse
Paint protection advise plse
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kidhaa

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398 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Will soon be taking deliverly of a Porsche

Porsche have quoted me around £500 for amourfend (bumper, bonnet, wing & door mirrors) and £340 for autogylm protection inside & out (plus a bag of autoglym goodies) - no need to wax the car - guaranteed for 10yrs!!

Dealership at Porsche highly recommends amourfend - but reading on some of the forums, some have not been happy with the armourfend?

Paint shield quoted me around £1200 & permagard quoted £140. Premagaurd inform me that I do not need to wax the car for at least one year - just rinse of the excess dirt with a jet wash, and that’s it.

Any advise would be appreciated


Nevetas

508 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Dont do either imo

polarexpress

6,796 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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No need to wax for 10 years? LOL... rolleyes

Paintshield is very good and provides full panel coverage back to the A-pillars. More coverage = higher price. I've got it and very happy with it.

I suspect the Armourfed that Porsche are offering you only provide partial panel coverage (ie, you see the lines). Partial coverage not the way to go imho.

Wax over Paintshield works well.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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2nd for paintshield, just had it on an RS, and very pleased.


It means you don't cringe everytime year here the stones bouncing off of the front
of your car yikes


G.

997gt3

3,139 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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Webby addy for Paintshield info anyone please?

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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997gt3 said:
Webby addy for Paintshield info anyone please?



Ask for Tom, say Glenn sent you
He will give 20% discount to Porsche Club GB members..

www.xpeleu.com/



Edited by Glenn McMenamin on Tuesday 16th January 12:43

hutchingsp

68,025 posts

240 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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I don't know enough about paintshield and physical paint coverings, but I wouldn't spend the money on Diamondbrite/Autoglym etc as I think you can spend far less and get the same level of protection, albeit maybe with a little more effort involved.

Spend some money on:

A couple of buckets
A couple of grit guards
A couple of wash mitts
A bottle of paint cleaner (I use Carlack)
Wax (I use Collinite)
Some good quality microfiber towels and cloths

and you should be fine.

kidhaa

Original Poster:

398 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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ok looks like im not going to bother

Porsche approved garage says its around £1000 to remove stone chips from the bumper and bonnet. Thats to respray and having it blended in upto the top of the bonnet.


9hellheaven

1,595 posts

239 months

Tuesday 16th January 2007
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"remove stone chips"
Why would you want to do that?
I think they are bloody well cool and very in vogue!
What was that aftershave called?
The mark of a real man..stone chips!!!

glyn waxmaster

328 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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kidhaa said:
Will soon be taking deliverly of a Porsche

Porsche have quoted me around £500 for amourfend (bumper, bonnet, wing & door mirrors) and £340 for autogylm protection inside & out (plus a bag of autoglym goodies) - no need to wax the car - guaranteed for 10yrs!!

Dealership at Porsche highly recommends amourfend - but reading on some of the forums, some have not been happy with the armourfend?

Paint shield quoted me around £1200 & permagard quoted £140. Premagaurd inform me that I do not need to wax the car for at least one year - just rinse of the excess dirt with a jet wash, and that’s it.

Any advise would be appreciated



Get the car detailed properly with a really high grade of carnauba, you can have it done a few times a year for that sort of price and if done correctly all the areas missed by the film will be cleaned too.

johnnywishbone

1,171 posts

252 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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ZYMOL !
THERE IS NO SUSTITUTE !!!!


JWB

kidhaa

Original Poster:

398 posts

237 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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guam said:
HI Which Porsche dealership was it?

Also the other writers are absolutely correct the price difference, is due to an industry standard Kit (goes a third up the bonnet mostly) and wing ends etc V a full frontal protection from the A Pillars and Door Jamb forward. There is basically no price difference after club discounts between Armourfend and Paintshield on the Standard Kits.


Cheers


The dealership is in Tunbridge

kidhaa

Original Poster:

398 posts

237 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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The only info found on permaguard is an article in evo -

http://evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongte

2something

2,145 posts

238 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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Purely personal opinion, but if your car is black I'd be more inclined to think about some kind of paint protection.

I had TST5k done on mine in 2002 and just got it reapplied last week. Does it work and is it worth it - hard to say in all honesty - I got charged £100 for the reappliction so thought I'd just get it done. Apparently TST5k is pretty rare, so there doesn't seem to be a real verdict on it's value.

My last car was metallic silver and the paintwork looked in showroom condition after 7 years with zero treatment or waxing - yes I am that lazy.

rich1231

17,340 posts

290 months

Monday 22nd January 2007
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had Armourfend on my old 996tt


it protected the paint from some very hig speed stones

But... I have found an amazing paintshop next to me that will repaint and blend the front of the car for less than the armour fend etc so id rather do that in future

BillyWhiz

255 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2007
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My 996 had the Autoglym lifeshine treatment done before I collected it. It looked good, but the shine soon faded. I did a lot of research before deciding whether to apply the Autoglym products or go for Zymol (which I'd used previously on my S2000).

There's so much competing and conflicting advice out there with each supplier obviously trying to flog their own product. In the end I went back to Zymol. I was feeling flush so got Specialist Cars in Malton to give it the all day Zymol treatment. I splashed out for the Royale (think that's what they call it) wax (£7k a tub apparently!).

It looks the muts nuts. The depth of shine is far superior to the Autoglym stuff.

Zymol gets my vote every time.

try5t

722 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2007
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I used to work for a bodyshop that used to use various armour protect coatings on top marque cars. In my experience, they very rarely do what they say on the tin. No paint protection system is going to stop your car being chipped by stones and debris(if you think it does, try chucking a jegged stone at your bonnet and see what happens!)unless of course you have that vinyl film protection placed over the sensitive areas.

I would pocket the money and buy some quality carnuba wax, some good wash wax solution and some non-silicon based products to make your wheels and plastic and rubber bits all nice and shiny. I would also recommend Autosmart for all your detailing/valeting needs - have used it myself for years.

vpr

3,933 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2007
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Glenn McMenamin said:
2nd for paintshield, just had it on an RS, and very pleased.


It means you don't cringe everytime year here the stones bouncing off of the front
of your car yikes


G.


Glenn.....I've often noticed that cars with this kind of treatment show an odd hazey finish to the protected areas. In other words the car looks like its been painted with a hoover...............Can you detect any of this with Paintshield?


paultje

1,042 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2007
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vpr said:
Glenn McMenamin said:
2nd for paintshield, just had it on an RS, and very pleased.


It means you don't cringe everytime year here the stones bouncing off of the front
of your car yikes


G.


Glenn.....I've often noticed that cars with this kind of treatment show an odd hazey finish to the protected areas. In other words the car looks like its been painted with a hoover...............Can you detect any of this with Paintshield?


Guam where are you??....according to Tom the newer 3M finish is much better than the 'old' armourfend, and much less visible. It can be polished, and if necessary, marks taken out of it using ethyl alcohol.
I'll let you know shortly, as mine is due to be done shortly.......



PS: Tom any idea when???? ( 993TT in Riviera Blue )

polarexpress

6,796 posts

257 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2007
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If you do concours, then you won't want Paintshield. It's good, but not THAT good! rolleyes

If you actually drive your car where there are either stones or grit on the road, and you don't want stonechips, then Paintshield is the way to go. Unless you know what to look for, the film is invisible and people don't even realise the car's been filmed.