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I only personally know one person with a Murcielago and that is Simon. As far as I know he hasn't had any scarey moments like that and he must have one of the highest miler Murcies in the world!
However, this guy here doesn't come across as a raving loony and he is digging up a lot a research that appears solid, especially the last bit about the steering fault recall.
However, this guy here doesn't come across as a raving loony and he is digging up a lot a research that appears solid, especially the last bit about the steering fault recall.
Freewheeler said:
even though he's running with s***ty aftermarket alloys!!
I noticed those wheels too. Now I'm no expert, but surely when Lambo, Ferrari, etc. sit down an design a car the size, width, etc. of the wheels is optimised for the weight, weight distribution, downforce, suspension, etc. of the car when running under a high load such as under hard acceleration, heavy braking or simply at a high constant speed. I've always felt that people who put aftermarket alloys on their car are risking unsettling the balance of the whole thing as a result. It doesn't bother me when I see a Citroen Saxo or a Vauxhall Corsa that's been pimped, but surely doing it to a supercar which runs under extreme loads is asking for trouble.
MitchT said:
Freewheeler said:
even though he's running with s***ty aftermarket alloys!!
I noticed those wheels too. Now I'm no expert, but surely when Lambo, Ferrari, etc. sit down an design a car the size, width, etc. of the wheels is optimised for the weight, weight distribution, downforce, suspension, etc. of the car when running under a high load such as under hard acceleration, heavy braking or simply at a high constant speed. I've always felt that people who put aftermarket alloys on their car are risking unsettling the balance of the whole thing as a result. It doesn't bother me when I see a Citroen Saxo or a Vauxhall Corsa that's been pimped, but surely doing it to a supercar which runs under extreme loads is asking for trouble.
Spot on!!!
I think this page is his 'not my fault'-statement about his accident. We all know it from lax-power boys when they had an accident: black ice, diesel on the road, the other's fault, ....
People, especially those who use their car as a public statement, have difficulties to admit to stupid driving. I'm sure that that many of them genuinely believe it's never been their fault.
People, especially those who use their car as a public statement, have difficulties to admit to stupid driving. I'm sure that that many of them genuinely believe it's never been their fault.
Freewheeler said:
The guys over on Lambo Power talked about this some time ago, seems like the owner has it in for Lamborghini and blames them for his accident.... even though he's running with s***ty aftermarket alloys!!
Indeedy.
Common concensus is his spangly alloys have been the cause. Bear in mind the Murci is essentially a Diablo with some tweaks. If there really was a safety issue, it would have turned up a long time ago.
He just got unlucky and needs to blame someone. Sometimes shit happens.
As Mike said the Murcielago chassis is essentially the same as the Diablo. When it was designed in the early 1990's 18" rims were the biggest available and so the 4wd system was designed around it.
A lot of Murcie's in the US are being modified with bigger rims but it can interfere with the 4wd system itself due to the different size of these rims. Worse, it can affect the traction control too. My guess is that his Murcie may have gone out of control due to the traction control kicking in, because of his aftermarket rims altering the rolling radius. But its only a guess. As such though Lamborghini Automobili couldnt be blamed for that.
A lot of Murcie's in the US are being modified with bigger rims but it can interfere with the 4wd system itself due to the different size of these rims. Worse, it can affect the traction control too. My guess is that his Murcie may have gone out of control due to the traction control kicking in, because of his aftermarket rims altering the rolling radius. But its only a guess. As such though Lamborghini Automobili couldnt be blamed for that.
simonspider said:
My guess is that his Murcie may have gone out of control due to the traction control kicking in, because of his aftermarket rims altering the rolling radius. But its only a guess. As such though Lamborghini Automobili couldnt be blamed for that.
change in rim size doesn't necessarily mean a change in rolling radius though - as long as his tyre selection was correct - do we know what tyre sizes he was running?
Davi said:
simonspider said:
My guess is that his Murcie may have gone out of control due to the traction control kicking in, because of his aftermarket rims altering the rolling radius. But its only a guess. As such though Lamborghini Automobili couldnt be blamed for that.
change in rim size doesn't necessarily mean a change in rolling radius though - as long as his tyre selection was correct - do we know what tyre sizes he was running?
Thats true - I don't know but i'm sure its on his website. Fact is his alloys could have come apart also.
simonspider said:
Davi said:
simonspider said:
My guess is that his Murcie may have gone out of control due to the traction control kicking in, because of his aftermarket rims altering the rolling radius. But its only a guess. As such though Lamborghini Automobili couldnt be blamed for that.
change in rim size doesn't necessarily mean a change in rolling radius though - as long as his tyre selection was correct - do we know what tyre sizes he was running?
Thats true - I don't know but i'm sure its on his website. Fact is his alloys could have come apart also.
Couldn't see it - the site does say that his alloys had been inspected by "experts" and found not to be at fault.
Not saying you are wrong or that I believe him without question, just interested to know the actual reasons for the incident.
Interesting addition at the bottom made a week or so back
that bloke that crashed said:
Recently I have made an interesting discovery. This website tells about a recall issue of 245 units of 2002 and 2003 Lamborghini Murcielagos because of a steering-screw which might not have been tightened enough. On inquiry at Lamborghini in Italy I was confirmed that my vehicle was under the affected ones. So, of course I wanted to figure out, whether this recall has actually being done or not, especially because this might be a proper explanation for my accident. After the previous owner has not known about any recall being done, I contacted Lamborghini-Kremer in Düsseldorf a further time, because he would have been obliged to document the recall, if it was being done. Unfortunately I am still waiting for any answer, for several weeks/months now. So I figured that the recall obviously hasnt been done and currently another expert examines if this can be held liable for my accident. If this is the case, then I would be able to sue Lamborghini for the first time.
Personally, I'd just be glad to be alive.
Accidents happen but, these days, a lot of people are pre-programmed to find someone to blame and try and profit from a bad day.
I assume his insurance paid out so I can't quite see the point in beating up on Sant'Agata. Unless he thinks they were out to get him?!
Accidents happen but, these days, a lot of people are pre-programmed to find someone to blame and try and profit from a bad day.
I assume his insurance paid out so I can't quite see the point in beating up on Sant'Agata. Unless he thinks they were out to get him?!
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