front axle needed
Discussion
nervous said:
hi all,
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
nervous - I know a few places oop North where I am who have recon units in stock (they will ship for a few quid).
Do you need a whole new axle or just a diff??
BLUETHUNDER said:
If there is nothing wrong with the axel then it will be stupid to replace the lot.Its a hell of a lot more to replace the axel than it is the diff.I wouldnt expect to pay anymore than £100 from a breakers.
unfortunatley, i dont have the luxury of time or the facilities to disassemble and examine and then reassemble the diff to find out.
my thinking is that the extra money spent will probably equal the amount of time id have to spend investigating anyway.
nervous said:
hi all,
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
As I suspected!
Whereabouts are you? It may be easier (and probably cheaper) to replace the complete front axle. Theyre often for sale, second hand, as a complete assembly and not particularly time consuming to fit. I'll have a hunt around for you if you like.
talkwrench said:
nervous said:
hi all,
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
As I suspected!
Whereabouts are you? It may be easier (and probably cheaper) to replace the complete front axle. Theyre often for sale, second hand, as a complete assembly and not particularly time consuming to fit. I'll have a hunt around for you if you like.
BLUETHUNDER said:
talkwrench said:
nervous said:
hi all,
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
As I suspected!
Whereabouts are you? It may be easier (and probably cheaper) to replace the complete front axle. Theyre often for sale, second hand, as a complete assembly and not particularly time consuming to fit. I'll have a hunt around for you if you like.
sorry dude, two seperate cars, too many threads, too many problems
the 88 is now fixed and gone.
i lost drive in the 110, the car will move slowly if i put it in diff lock. nothing in any other gear.
the original guess was the transfer box.
however, as a number of you suggested, if the transfer box had gone, there should still be still be some drive.
the next guess was the half shafts. the end caps were removed and there appeared to be very little resisitance in either of them, suggesting one or other had gone.
to check which one, it was suggested to me that if i raise each wheel with the car in gear and turn it, if the prop shaft turns and you can hear the diff turning, then its not that half shaft.
both rear wheels drove the prop shaft fine.
neither front wheels drove anything.
it has been suggested to me that this means the front axle/ diff is pooped rather than the half shaft.
this help BT?
nervous said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
talkwrench said:
nervous said:
hi all,
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
it turns out that my front diff needs replacing, does anyone know where i could get one, or have one laying around theyd be willing to sell?
its a 110 on an '89 plate if that helps.
many thanks,
N.
As I suspected!
Whereabouts are you? It may be easier (and probably cheaper) to replace the complete front axle. Theyre often for sale, second hand, as a complete assembly and not particularly time consuming to fit. I'll have a hunt around for you if you like.
sorry dude, two seperate cars, too many threads, too many problems
the 88 is now fixed and gone.
i lost drive in the 110, the car will move slowly if i put it in diff lock. nothing in any other gear.
the original guess was the transfer box.
however, as a number of you suggested, if the transfer box had gone, there should still be still be some drive.
the next guess was the half shafts. the end caps were removed and there appeared to be very little resisitance in either of them, suggesting one or other had gone.
to check which one, it was suggested to me that if i raise each wheel with the car in gear and turn it, if the prop shaft turns and you can hear the diff turning, then its not that half shaft.
both rear wheels drove the prop shaft fine.
neither front wheels drove anything.
it has been suggested to me that this means the front axle/ diff is pooped rather than the half shaft.
this help BT?
nervous said:
i was under the impression that although its called 4 wheel drive, its not actually 4 wheel drive in the conventional sense, meaning if i lost drive at the front i lost all drive.
is that wrong?
is that wrong?
no it is 4wd in the conventional sense, but it also has a center differential as its permenant 4x4. the older series land rovers were part time 4x4 ( normally rwd) and when in 4x4 had no center diff.
with a center diff it allows the front and rear axles to operate at different speeds.and stop scrabbling and wind up that you'd get if you ran a series motor in 4x4 in the road.
as with any diff if the front axle is spinning then no drive will go to the back. this is why they have a diff lock. whith the diff locked ( center) you will always get drive to both axles.
if the car dosent move with the diff unlocked have a look underneath to see if either of the props are spinning, that should point to which end has the problem.
then lock the diff and it should move .
a goo way to see the center diff in action on a working car is to drive it at a very steep slippery bank that you have no hope of getting up. first do this with the diff unlocked. when the lr starts to go up the bank the front wheels will loose traction first and start to spin, if you are watching from outside you'll see the rear wheels are not moving. put it in diff lock and the rears will spin as well..
try that in a series motor in 4x4 and front and rear wil always spin.
as for an axle the best place I know is famous four in louth 01507 609444. www.famousfour.co.uk now my mate doesnt work their any more but if you ask for Richard he should be able to help you out a good bunch of guys
G
BLUETHUNDER said:
This doesnt stack up.The 110 operates permant four wheel drive,which is a 50/50 split in drive to the front and rear axels,so even if you lost drive to the front axel you will still have drive to the rear.If like your saying that you have no drive at all but only when you put it in diff lock then this points to the diff in the transfer box being the problem.This doesnt in any way shape or form sound like a problem with the front axel.
He's right :bugger: if you took the front prop off a 90/110 you'd still get drive to the rear
(that would be fun in a V8 90). I think you have more than one issue here nerv, I think your loss of drive has brought into the equation an unknown (to you) axle problem. This could get expensive.
greenlandy said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
This doesnt stack up.The 110 operates permant four wheel drive,which is a 50/50 split in drive to the front and rear axels,so even if you lost drive to the front axel you will still have drive to the rear.If like your saying that you have no drive at all but only when you put it in diff lock then this points to the diff in the transfer box being the problem.This doesnt in any way shape or form sound like a problem with the front axel.
He's right :bugger: if you took the front prop off a 90/110 you'd still get drive to the rear
(that would be fun in a V8 90). I think you have more than one issue here nerv, I think your loss of drive has brought into the equation an unknown (to you) axle problem. This could get expensive.
so, were back at transfer box then?
Graham said:
if the car dosent move with the diff unlocked have a look underneath to see if either of the props are spinning, that should point to which end has the problem.
then lock the diff and it should move .
G
thanks graham, i appreciate you taking the time. with regard to the above, with the diff unlocked the rear prop spins and the front one doesnt.
then when i lock the diff as you say it moves.
which has led us to the front axle and diff conclusion.
getting very confused now. unless its all broken which is a bit more clear.
I'm off to Nerv's tomorrow to try and help diagnose the problem.
I'm thinking out loud so any input greatly received.
It already sounds like there's a problem with the front axle ie: lift either front wheel and spin with no action at the propshaft(has a previous owner snapped/removed the halfshafts?)
or is the axle fubar'd I don't think it's the axle as when they go they make a terrible noise. When mine let go it split the axle tube.
Nerv says he has drive to the rear when in diff lock but not to the front so to me that points to the center diff in the transferbox.
If Nerv needs his wheels do I remove the front prop lock up the diff so he can potter about?
If it is the transfer box how bad is the mainshaft going to be on the main gearbox?
I'm thinking out loud so any input greatly received.
It already sounds like there's a problem with the front axle ie: lift either front wheel and spin with no action at the propshaft(has a previous owner snapped/removed the halfshafts?)
or is the axle fubar'd I don't think it's the axle as when they go they make a terrible noise. When mine let go it split the axle tube.
Nerv says he has drive to the rear when in diff lock but not to the front so to me that points to the center diff in the transferbox.
If Nerv needs his wheels do I remove the front prop lock up the diff so he can potter about?
If it is the transfer box how bad is the mainshaft going to be on the main gearbox?
I still think the problem is the diff in the transfer box itself.If you say that when you engage diff lock you get drive to the front,then this will indicate that the half shafts and crown wheel in the front diff are doing there job.One way of telling if a diff in the transfer box is on its way out is whilst out driving if you make a series of full lock right and left turns and you start to get slight snatch back through the steering then this is a sign of impending doom.Just some more info.The first 90/110,s used the RR LT77 box.Later going to the LT95 then on to now the R380.
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