Police/HATO off-roaders
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SamHH

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5,078 posts

246 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Why do the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles? I've read that one of the reasons is for their towing ability. How often is this ability required and what other reasons are there?

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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SamHH said:
Why do the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles? I've read that one of the reasons is for their towing ability. How often is this ability required and what other reasons are there?


They go off road in them.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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SamHH said:
Why do the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles? I've read that one of the reasons is for their towing ability. How often is this ability required and what other reasons are there?


They often tow.

peaktorque

1,807 posts

241 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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For high speed chases and for those tricky pursuits that require a well balanced / good handling vehicle of course. rolleyes

SamHH

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246 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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r5gttgaz said:
They go off road in them.


Is this the only reason; i.e. if they didn't need them to go off road they wouldn't have them? From what I can gather HATOs only use off-road vehicles. I guess that they need to go off road quite rarely so why do they all use them?

shuvitupya

3,339 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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4x4 is needed for all weather conditions such as deep snow and water.

What is the point of the OP?

SamHH

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5,078 posts

246 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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shuvitupya said:

What is the point of the OP?


I want to know why the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles. That's all.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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SamHH said:
shuvitupya said:

What is the point of the OP?


I want to know why the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles. That's all.


They are nice & easy to climb in & out of. Range Rovers have good cup holders too.

Flat in Fifth

48,916 posts

281 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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As VH said towing vehicles clear of the highway.

I've seen a Range Rover hooked up to an overturned trailer laid on its side, and drag it out of the way, though not a HATO RR admittedly but in theory.

Goochie

5,800 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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HATO's used to practice on the airfield that I used to work on (former USAF Upper Heyford). They used them to pull vehicles to the side of the road as others have said.

I guess they are more visible due to their size too.

If I was changing a tyre in the rain at the side of the motorway I'd rather a 4x4 was there warning others of the danger than a Mondeo.

motorwise

401 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Goochie said:
HATO's used to practice on the airfield that I used to work on (former USAF Upper Heyford). They used them to pull vehicles to the side of the road as others have said.

I guess they are more visible due to their size too.

If I was changing a tyre in the rain at the side of the motorway I'd rather a 4x4 was there warning others of the danger than a Mondeo.



I do breakdowns on the motorways and the bigger and more visible you are the better - it's scary enough on the hard shoulder as it is

so8

1,870 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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motorwise said:
Goochie said:
HATO's used to practice on the airfield that I used to work on (former USAF Upper Heyford). They used them to pull vehicles to the side of the road as others have said.

I guess they are more visible due to their size too.

If I was changing a tyre in the rain at the side of the motorway I'd rather a 4x4 was there warning others of the danger than a Mondeo.



I do breakdowns on the motorways and the bigger and more visible you are the better - it's scary enough on the hard shoulder as it is


Yep ..... more visible, tow more and carry more cones / kit to put in closures - or at least that is why the police have them .... can't comment on HATO's

deeps

5,432 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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vonhosen said:
SamHH said:
shuvitupya said:

What is the point of the OP?


I want to know why the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles. That's all.


They are nice & easy to climb in & out of. Range Rovers have good cup holders too.

laugh And lots of cubbyholes for half eaten donuts (just to continue tonights donut theme)

Vaux

1,558 posts

246 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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SamHH said:
Why do the police and HATOs use off-road vehicles? I've read that one of the reasons is for their towing ability. How often is this ability required and what other reasons are there?

HATOs have to have the capability to clear the carriageway of broken vehicles. It's part of their remit to ensure the motorways are available to other road users. 4WD/off-road vehicles fit the bill.


kenp

654 posts

278 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Give them a tow truck. That's what they are for. Much cheaper and more visible.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-IVECO-RECO

BigBob

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255 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Flat in Fifth said:
As VH said towing vehicles clear of the highway.

I've seen a Range Rover hooked up to an overturned trailer laid on its side, and drag it out of the way, though not a HATO RR admittedly but in theory.



Almost sure I read somewhere that the reason that RR were the police vehicle of choice was the fact that they could tow 44 tons and it took more than 48 tons to shear the towing bracket/chassis - handy for dragging artics off the motorway.




BB

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

258 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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BigBob said:
Almost sure I read somewhere that the reason that RR were the police vehicle of choice was the fact that they could tow 44 tons and it took more than 48 tons to shear the towing bracket/chassis - handy for dragging artics off the motorway.



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Edited by chevy-stu on Friday 26th January 13:19

so8

1,870 posts

258 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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BigBob said:
Flat in Fifth said:
As VH said towing vehicles clear of the highway.

I've seen a Range Rover hooked up to an overturned trailer laid on its side, and drag it out of the way, though not a HATO RR admittedly but in theory.



Almost sure I read somewhere that the reason that RR were the police vehicle of choice was the fact that they could tow 44 tons and it took more than 48 tons to shear the towing bracket/chassis - handy for dragging artics off the motorway.




BB


Yep, the RR and Disco are incredible for towing and the way they are made means they can - generally - tow alot more than other 4x4s. I have seen a huge lorry pulled uphill by a Disco which meant the road was cleared hours before a heavy recovery would have arrived and as a result no furious motorists stuck in traffic jams because of a broken down!

TPS

1,860 posts

243 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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The above is true and thats why they use range rovers and discos as these can easily pull a hgv of the motorway.Then you may have a car with its wheels missing stuck in the central reservation and again a 4x4 will just drag it out with ease.Also you have to think of the weight of the gear they are carrying ie 10 or 20 cones,signs,brooms,lights etc.There is not really a car or van that could carry all this gear and do all the towing mentioned above so thats why the police and hatos use them.

Vaux

1,558 posts

246 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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BigBob said:
Almost sure I read somewhere that the reason that RR were the police vehicle of choice was the fact that they could tow 44 tons and it took more than 48 tons to shear the towing bracket/chassis - handy for dragging artics off the motorway.

I thought new RR shouldn't be used for towing LGVs because the chassis design was not adequate?