Cayenne discs and pads... at 30k!!!!

[blueyes]

Brother has a Cayenne V6 (yes we're poor) and just took it in for a 30k mile service.

"Needs new discs and pads sir"


The pads are original from when he bought it new, so I suppose that's ok.... but bloody discs after 30k miles?

Is that normal or did he tick the option box for "chocolate discs" by mistake.


Thanks for your help.

[sleep envy]

usual case of OPC trying it on

ask them what the accepted minimum thickness of the disks is and then hold onto something sturdy before you hit the deck with laughter

Dealers, God bless 'em each and every one.

[blueyes]

sleep envy said:

usual case of OPC trying it on

ask them what the accepted minimum thickness of the disks is and then hold onto something sturdy before you hit the deck with laughter

Dealers, God bless 'em each and every one.

If he'd gone through three sets of pads in 30k you could understand he'd been doing a lot of braking so maybe he'd need new discs but to me it seems inacceptable.

Should he complain to Pork GB? Will it do any good? Or should he just tell them to stick their discs up their exhaust pipe?

[Vesuvius 996]

Standard try on.I was told by a London OPC I needed discs over 15,000 miles ago.

I now get it serviced in OPC Cambridge, and no mention of any need for discs at all.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 29th January 13:19

[blueyes]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Standard try on.I was told by a London OPC I needed discs over 15,000 miles ago.

I now get it serviced in OPC Cambridge, and no mention of any need for discs at all.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 29th January 13:19

Thanks for that. He's politely told them where to shove their discs.

[Vesuvius 996]

blueyes said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Standard try on.I was told by a London OPC I needed discs over 15,000 miles ago.

I now get it serviced in OPC Cambridge, and no mention of any need for discs at all.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 29th January 13:19

Thanks for that. He's politely told them where to shove their discs.

I now work on the basis that if the brakes stop like hell, and the car passes its MOT, I don't need discs.

[Adam B]

Vesuvius 996 said:

I now work on the basis that if the brakes stop like hell, and the car passes its MOT, I don't need discs.

I work on the basis that main dealers saying work needs to be done are as honest as estate agents. I ignore them and if I believe there may be a semblance of truth I go to an independent for a second opinion / 30-50% saving.

[Don]

My Box needed new discs and pads after 20K miles.




and a lot of trackdays...

Edited by Don on Monday 29th January 14:37

[Henry-F]

It`s not a case of how many miles the car`s done, it`s how hard and how many times it`s braked so to complain that discs "only" lasted 30k miles is rediculous. The pads on my GT3 "only" lasted 16 hours and they are the hardest wearing pads money can buy clamping fully floating discs. In fairness we were pottering round Silverstone at the time so that might have had something to do with it.

Discs have a minimum thickness that they are recommended to be run down to. If you feel the disc with your finger (when it`s cold), you will feel a ridge on the outer rim of the disc as the metal on the main face of the disc is worn away. You can also change discs for corrosion (particularly rear inner faces) or warping / distortion.

If the garage have decided the pads are not going to make the next service and likewise the discs then they might recommend their change. The problem is that brake wear is massively subjective depending how a car is driven. I got 35k miles out of a Cayenne (even doing lots of towing) and the discs were fine, the pads needed changing once. But I`m quite gentle on the brakes using them very lightly and losing speed over a long distance rather than making the brakes do all the work bringing the car to rest quickly from speed.

So it`s all down to how hard you press the pedal and how often you press it !

Henry

[Pickled Piper]

Oh please! we all know that wear rate is dependant on useage. However, we also all know that most main dealers, not just Porsche will try it on in terms of disc changing. It's an easy money spinner for them and easily justified by "well it is a safety critical item sir/madam". Most cases of corrosion can be fixed by taking the car out for a good hard run. Also, the safety margin built into the manufacturers wear limit is so large that exceeding it has no real consequences unless you regularly descend mountain passes with a two ton trailer.

If you want an accurate assesssment of how worn you discs are take it to a good independent.

pp

[blueyes]

Henry-F said:

It`s not a case of how many miles the car`s done, it`s how hard and how many times it`s braked so to complain that discs "only" lasted 30k miles is rediculous.

but then Henry-F said:

I got 35k miles out of a Cayenne (even doing lots of towing) and the discs were fine, the pads needed changing once.

If you read my first post you'll see that he had the car from new and it's still on the original pads so he's hardly ragged the nuts off it has he?

In his case, the OPC wanting to change the discs at 30k is rip-off city.