18" RL7's Advice please
18" RL7's Advice please
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ajp4.2

Original Poster:

296 posts

242 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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I have been offered a set of 18" RL7's to replace my standard 16" wheels. I know there has been problems with them cracking, but understand it may not be all of them that are affected. One of these RL7's have been repaired but done properly. What are people's experience of the 18" and the associated problems. Basically should I buy or run a mile ??

cooky

4,955 posts

266 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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I'd leave well alone and get some 17's, the odds are well against, not a good idea with 350+ BHP

the 17's are a much better option, I even prefer them to 18 spiders but then thats just my own choice plenty opt for spiders.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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Providing you steer clear of pot holes I can see no problems.

Power isn't going to break a wheel, your tyre will loose traction first.

Shock loading when cornering or whacking a kerb will do the damage.

paulk

319 posts

303 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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I have had mine for 6 years with no problems. Even after the offroad experience eek which did give them a hard time. Its nice to see a Cerb with original looking wheels IMO anyway never really liked the spiders on a cerb again just my opinion.

daver

1,209 posts

313 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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I'm running a set now. I checked with Neill Anderson re- the actual facts of the situation and he told me that it was only one actual batch that suffered any issues.

The wheels are just like any other part of the car. Regular checking is just common sense - whether it's RL7's, 17", 18", spiders or whatever. Works for me.

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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Agree with the rogue batch theory, however alarm bells for me when you say one has ben repaired. I have a pair of 18" rears in my garage at home that I may let go later on, they need paint but no repair.

Full SP

253 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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RL7's were not subject to a batch problem. The manufacturer was routinely "recycling" wheels by melting down finished scrap wheels. The paint and other impurities affected the structural integrity of the wheels. 18" wheels were more widely affected because they faced larger loads due to the lower profile tyres. 17" wheels (on earlier cars especially) had very few problems also because the "recycling" practice was only adopted later in the company's life, coincidentally ()on the run up to it going into liquidation.

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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Full SP said:
RL7's were not subject to a batch problem. The manufacturer was routinely "recycling" wheels by melting down finished scrap wheels. The paint and other impurities affected the structural integrity of the wheels. 18" wheels were more widely affected because they faced larger loads due to the lower profile tyres. 17" wheels (on earlier cars especially) had very few problems also because the "recycling" practice was only adopted later in the company's life, coincidentally ()on the run up to it going into liquidation.

Interesting to know cheers, helps the understanding a bit thumbup

daver

1,209 posts

313 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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Full SP said:
RL7's were not subject to a batch problem. The manufacturer was routinely "recycling" wheels by melting down finished scrap wheels. The paint and other impurities affected the structural integrity of the wheels. 18" wheels were more widely affected because they faced larger loads due to the lower profile tyres. 17" wheels (on earlier cars especially) had very few problems also because the "recycling" practice was only adopted later in the company's life, coincidentally ()on the run up to it going into liquidation.


I was told that the problem existed on wheels manufactured before date X, not after, so that doesn't really tally.

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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I had the (probably) first set of 18 RL7s on my first cerb and they cracked. So the problem was pretty early on !

Full SP

253 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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[quote=daver
I was told that the problem existed on wheels manufactured before date X, not after, so that doesn't really tally.[/quote]

By whom? I saw the results of the metallurgical examination of the failed wheels. I was pretty close to the action at the time and I was not aware of any "cut-off" date for this problem. It wouldn't be the first time however that TVR had claimed to have dealt with a problem when in fact they had simply buried their head in the sand. Lies, damn lies and "that only affects TVR's before date x..." rolleyes

ajp4.2

Original Poster:

296 posts

242 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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Full SP said:
[quote=daver
I was told that the problem existed on wheels manufactured before date X, not after, so that doesn't really tally.


By whom? I saw the results of the metallurgical examination of the failed wheels. I was pretty close to the action at the time and I was not aware of any "cut-off" date for this problem. It wouldn't be the first time however that TVR had claimed to have dealt with a problem when in fact they had simply buried their head in the sand. Lies, damn lies and "that only affects TVR's before date x..." rolleyes[/quote]

Many thanks for all your comments. Where on the wheels did the cracks happen??

cooky

4,955 posts

266 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Can anyone who suffored from the 18's cracking please state if they were mainly fronts or rears?
I am interested to find out as much as I can, as the way I would like to go is

18 rears and 17 fronts, not sure if this is viable but I'd like to find out any handling advantages.

can anyone currently running either 17 or 18 please post what size tyres you are currently running and also waht year you car is.

I don't know if the 'mods' needed for spiders on an earlier 4.2 are neccesary when using RL7's for 18 inch rears.

NB if the above can be done I'd like to use toyo r888, I have all the rolling diameter info and revolutions per mile and such if anyone needs it. www.toyo.co.uk

daver

1,209 posts

313 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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225x35/18 fronts and 255x35/18 rears.

Yes, you can run 17" (235x40/18) fronts with 18" rears. I did for a while. Handling-wise, I don't think it makes a great deal of difference though. Certainly not as much as different spring rates, damper settings or tyre pressures make

No mods required with 18" RL7s as, like SP's wheels, the widths and offsets employed actually fit the car without bastardising various bits of it - unlike spiders!

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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I had cracking on the front and rear on my RL7 18s. CAused 2 high speed blow outs ! Tyre fitters didint notice the cracking so I just thought was a nail or something until it happened again later that week on a different trye. As I parked on shingle with 35 profile I didnt notice the tyres were suddenly losing pressure.

ajp4.2

Original Poster:

296 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Lots of opinions thanks. Big question is should I risk buying these wheels. I really dont know which way to go.

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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If you want them buy them. Without tyres £450 max?

ajp4.2

Original Poster:

296 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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gazzab said:
If you want them buy them. Without tyres £450 max?

With good tyres 4mm £450. I intended to keep my 16". but am now having serious doubts.
Gazzab
Where abouts on the rim did yours crack when you had the blow outs?


Edited by ajp4.2 on Thursday 1st February 22:02

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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I forget where mine cracked - I think it was where the spokes joined the outer rim. Thnking about it £450 without tyres is too much. £450 with reasonable tyres is ok. Not a bargain. They do look nice.

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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If you want a complete set of 18" RL's there is a set in the TVRCC classified section at £250, don't know what condition etc.