R6 or Daytona 675 as first bike
Discussion
I'm planning on buying a bike next week after I do my Direct Access, proving I don't balls up.
Now the reason I'm buying a bike - track days and blasts around the Highlands (3-4 hour).
It's not the main form of transport (have a Seat Altea for that) and I also have a Boxster for fun/touring stuff and the odd trackday too.
Now I've ridden only a Gilera 125 around London for a year, I'm 32 and have had numerous years of performance car driving, having most recently owned a GT3. Now I know it's different but the attitude on the road I have is very deffensive - Central London riding was like a warzone
So, for my first bike is the Triumph 675 the better bike for a mix of road and track stuff? I've heard the R6 is more razor sharp/track focussed? Is it too harsh for the road?
As soon as I pass my test I plan advance riding lessons for the bike (done it for the car) and a good few days at Knockhill being taught how to ride properly on the track...
So which one - 675 or R6. Any other suggestions, bar a CBR Hornet?
Now the reason I'm buying a bike - track days and blasts around the Highlands (3-4 hour).
It's not the main form of transport (have a Seat Altea for that) and I also have a Boxster for fun/touring stuff and the odd trackday too.
Now I've ridden only a Gilera 125 around London for a year, I'm 32 and have had numerous years of performance car driving, having most recently owned a GT3. Now I know it's different but the attitude on the road I have is very deffensive - Central London riding was like a warzone
So, for my first bike is the Triumph 675 the better bike for a mix of road and track stuff? I've heard the R6 is more razor sharp/track focussed? Is it too harsh for the road?
As soon as I pass my test I plan advance riding lessons for the bike (done it for the car) and a good few days at Knockhill being taught how to ride properly on the track...
So which one - 675 or R6. Any other suggestions, bar a CBR Hornet?
Steve,
I believe the Triumph is a very good bike, however, being a Yamaha man (R1 owner) I'd say go for the R6 in black (the fastest colour
). If you're going to use a bike for the occasional blast and track days it sounds like the best choice and you won't have to do much to it apart from maybe a tail tidy which really neatens up the rear end. If you can test ride both once you've passed and judge for yourself.
Once you have passed you'll learn about counter steering, shifting your body weight and using the foot pegs to help steer the bike and my best advice is to always look where you want to be on the road and to look around a bend to where you want to be the bike will go there.
Best of luck,
Andy.
I believe the Triumph is a very good bike, however, being a Yamaha man (R1 owner) I'd say go for the R6 in black (the fastest colour
). If you're going to use a bike for the occasional blast and track days it sounds like the best choice and you won't have to do much to it apart from maybe a tail tidy which really neatens up the rear end. If you can test ride both once you've passed and judge for yourself. Once you have passed you'll learn about counter steering, shifting your body weight and using the foot pegs to help steer the bike and my best advice is to always look where you want to be on the road and to look around a bend to where you want to be the bike will go there.
Best of luck,
Andy.
Steve_T said:
If you buy the trumpet, watch the oil consumption.
Steve.
Steve.
^^^ what he said
There are cheaper 2006 R6s around too, but might not be worth the hassle of delivery / finance etc, but here's the ad anyway:
YAMAHA YZF-R6 S 599cc, 2007. 2 Years Warranty, NEW BIKE, View at our showroom or order by phone, Nationwide delivery, 06 model, MEGA LOW FINANCE DEAL, FOR 07 PLATE. £5,299 KJM Superbike Ltd (01257) 451656
Alternative strategy, buy an older bike, spend the rest on good kit, tyres and training. Yes the newest shinyest bike is great, but you've committed less into it so if you decide it's not for you'll lose less. If you drop it again less hassle, you have cash to spare. If you decide it is for you, you have money to spend on the right kit so you're well protected (check what Fergus wears in t'other thread for a guide). If you really get hooked, sell the old bike and buy a track slag with proper suspension, spare wheels and so on.
Steve.
Steve.
Test ride, test ride, test ride! It's a bit like saying you need a new kitchen or bathroom and asking for advice - only you will know what suits you and what gives you the right buzz. Try a range of styles of bike, sizes and engine configurations; the difference between, say, as R6 and an SV will be huge, and that's just for starters. Whatever you choose - well done, and have fun - you'll have a blast whatever you go for!
I was pretty much in the same situation this time last year. My final 2 were the 06 R6 & the 675. In the end I opted for the R6 (obviously).
They are both amazing bikes. Magazines will say the Yamaha is better on track & the 675 better on the road. However, to you average pleb they would both feel f@ck!ng amazing & you won't push them anywhere near thier limits anyway.
Its more than likely to come down to which looks the better (in your opinion) & which is the comfiest. I'm 6 foot & the R6 is in no way uncomfy.
You'll be wanting to swap whichever you get after 12 months anyway (if not before).
They are both amazing bikes. Magazines will say the Yamaha is better on track & the 675 better on the road. However, to you average pleb they would both feel f@ck!ng amazing & you won't push them anywhere near thier limits anyway.
Its more than likely to come down to which looks the better (in your opinion) & which is the comfiest. I'm 6 foot & the R6 is in no way uncomfy.
You'll be wanting to swap whichever you get after 12 months anyway (if not before).
Any low mileage 600 manufactured since about 2000 onwards will more than sate your lust for performance. They've all been cracking 100bhp at the rear wheel.
As Gethyn said, try lots out.
As to your predicament; R6 or 675? I'm a Yam man but my sister has a 675 and it is fantastic fun to ride. It isn't run in yet so I haven't had a chance to cane it but it turns beautifully - maybe too fast for a newbie?
As Gethyn said, try lots out.
As to your predicament; R6 or 675? I'm a Yam man but my sister has a 675 and it is fantastic fun to ride. It isn't run in yet so I haven't had a chance to cane it but it turns beautifully - maybe too fast for a newbie?
Most 600s these ndays are equally matched in performance,but you being a novice should feel confident on the bike your`e buying.Test ride them all at local dealerships,and then decide.I would suggest a Honda MAC riding course,this will improve your road skills and observation.Then when its time for warp factor nine,you will know what to buy.Good luck.
Andy Oh said:
Steve,
I believe the Triumph is a very good bike, however, being a Yamaha man (R1 owner) I'd say go for the R6 in black (the fastest colour). If you're going to use a bike for the occasional blast and track days it sounds like the best choice and you won't have to do much to it apart from maybe a tail tidy which really neatens up the rear end. If you can test ride both once you've passed and judge for yourself.
Once you have passed you'll learn about counter steering, shifting your body weight and using the foot pegs to help steer the bike and my best advice is to always look where you want to be on the road and to look around a bend to where you want to be the bike will go there.
Best of luck,
Andy.
I believe the Triumph is a very good bike, however, being a Yamaha man (R1 owner) I'd say go for the R6 in black (the fastest colour
). If you're going to use a bike for the occasional blast and track days it sounds like the best choice and you won't have to do much to it apart from maybe a tail tidy which really neatens up the rear end. If you can test ride both once you've passed and judge for yourself. Once you have passed you'll learn about counter steering, shifting your body weight and using the foot pegs to help steer the bike and my best advice is to always look where you want to be on the road and to look around a bend to where you want to be the bike will go there.
Best of luck,
Andy.
Check out the new CBR as well... The R6, GSXR, CBR, 675 are all pretty focussed bikes which excel on the track and are good on the road. I doubt very much you'd notice much difference between all the models when you're just starting out so maybe just go for the one you like the look of? The Honda / Yamaha / Triumph have a better build quality than Suzuki - something to think about perhaps if you're looking to keep for some time. Also note that the R6 needs lots of revs to get going wheras the extra CC's of the 675 might be more friendly and less intense.
Which brings us back to that old chestnut again! Should a novice buy a big bike? I still maintain that it's down to the commonsense and self-control of the rider and arguably the easier and lazier (do I really mean lazier?!) power of a bigger bike could even be safer than a smaller rev-hungry bike. You can go pretty much as fast on a 600 as you can on a 750 or 1000, it's just that the bigger bike bike will get there a little bit quicker, if you see what I mean! I don't think that a GSX-R 750 would necessarily be too much for a novice; it all depends on how you use the power that you have. Good luck with your decision - all new sportsbikes are blindingly good fun anyway!
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