cerb v Griffith residuals
cerb v Griffith residuals
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carlb

Original Poster:

159 posts

252 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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is it me or do griffith risiduals seem to be a lot stronger than that of the cerb?

if so why do you think that is?

headcase

2,389 posts

246 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Is this our 1000 word essay for the weekend sir?

carlb

Original Poster:

159 posts

252 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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indeed it is

make sure that you cite all your sources and no plagiarism...

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Griffs have been the strongest prices for many yrs. Rarer than Chims etc

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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I think the non-AJP engined Cerbs are retaining residuals better than the cerb because of the demise of TVR (look what happened to Rover values when they went bust) but ironically the fact that the Griff and Chim have Rover engines is in their favour as it is percieved as less of a specialist engine and so will be easier to find garages to service it, conversely the Cerb is seen as more of a specialist car.

Roberto Rica

306 posts

236 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!

Scrooloose

888 posts

245 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!


With the greatest respect..... The Griff is simply the fugliest car TVR ever built. It's like a pedalo with wheels........

16,745 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!

It`s just a pity they`re very, very SLOW!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!


Yes you're right, the best looking car ever.... Now back to the question

I agree, the order for higher second hand prices Griff, Chim, Cerb 4.2 or 4.5, anything with a speed six in.

Me thinks, engine reliability / Cost of ownership / rarity, is the answer.

Is there a prize ?


Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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said:
Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!

It`s just a pity they`re very, very SLOW!


Who said that?

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Extra 300 Driver said:
said:
Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!

It`s just a pity they`re very, very SLOW!


Who said that


How do you know he's called "who" ?

"who said that"..... Sound's like he's Chinese ?



Edited by RUSSELLM on Saturday 17th February 09:22

Roberto Rica

306 posts

236 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Didn't mean to offend anybody BUT it is the case that 'out and out' performance becomes less important and looks and reliability become more important to the buyer of 'classic' sports cars, anyway the RV8 cars aren't exactly slow in comparison with similar aged Porsches and Ferraris.

I love all TVRs but the Griffith has that 'classic' appeal which will ensure low depreciation in the market.

The stylings of the Chimaera/Cerbera have not aged as well as the Griffith - too many fussy unnecessary details IMO.

The lack of open-air motoring in the Cerbera also weighs against it IMO.

Well you did ask!

Rob


Edited by Roberto Rica on Saturday 17th February 10:39



Edited by Roberto Rica on Saturday 17th February 10:41

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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My favourite part of the Griff, is when you look into the headlight pod, and see a discoloured dirty version, of what your paintwork would look like, had it never seen soap.

Pure classic design

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Roberto Rica said:
Didn't mean to offend anybody BUT it is the case that 'out and out' performance becomes less important and looks and reliability become more important to the buyer of 'classic' sports cars, anyway the RV8 cars aren't exactly slow in comparison with similar aged Porsches and Ferraris.

I love all TVRs but the Griffith has that 'classic' appeal which will ensure low depreciation in the market.

The stylings of the Chimaera/Cerbera have not aged as well as the Griffith - too many fussy unnecessary details IMO.

The lack of open-air motoring in the Cerbera also weighs against it IMO.

Well you did ask!

Rob


Edited by Roberto Rica on Saturday 17th February 10:39



Edited by Roberto Rica on Saturday 17th February 10:41


I dont agree with your points (except open air motoring). Whilst the Chim and Cerb are simliliarly styled they are different enough to stand them apart. The Griffs are a classic but personally I prefer the super car looks of a cerb and not the modern MG looks of the griff. Also the engine is stuck in the 50s. I do like the engine but want something more modern and more race car like , hence the cerb. The roof line of the cerb really does make it a menacing beast.

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Extra 300 Driver said:
said:
Roberto Rica said:
Could it be because the Griffith is quite simply the best looking sportscar ever made whereas the Cerbera looks like a Chimaera coupe - nuff said!

It`s just a pity they`re very, very SLOW!


Who said that?

`Twas I.

Dunno how that happened?

Roberto Rica

306 posts

236 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Gazzab

That's okay - I do allow others to disagree with me.

The points you make against the Griffith, engine, looks, etc., are actually all reasons why they are in demand as 'classic' sports cars and thus retain their values better than 'yesterday's supercars' like the Cerbera. The MGB point puzzles me as the front of the Cerbera/Chimaera is easily mistaken for a MG RV8 - headlights, etc.

Yesterday's Supercars scare Joe Public as a buying proposition - he prefers reliability and timeless looks over risky mechanicals and dated styling.

This, in answer to the question, is why Griffiths retain their value better than Cerberas. I believe that this position will be even more pronounced in years to come.

Rob


Edited by Roberto Rica on Saturday 17th February 13:36

Brooksie

121 posts

236 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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tis funny ... the one reason why i didn't even consider a Chim or a Griff is the fact that they're soft tops, don't get me wrong they're stunning cars to look at but to me soft top motoring is a bit .. erm .. hairdresser/girly ?

I also can't see how anyone could say a cerbera now looks dated ? .. each to their own though i guess

Roberto Rica

306 posts

236 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Vive la difference!

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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Roberto Rica said:
Vive la difference!

Exactly. Thank goodness I am different to all those people that go for Griffs !! ;-)

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Saturday 17th February 2007
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RobertoRica - You prefer Griffiths and thats why you've got one, but your showing your lack of objectivenss and ignorance saying the Cerbera is a dated design! The original question was about retaining residuals, and I've already given my opinion about that in an earlier reply, and I never critcised the Griffith in that reply. The Cerbera has prescence, ask all the owners here, none of us has ever recieved anything but compliments about the car. Park a Cerbera next to a Griffith and people will ignore the Griffith and just look at the Cerbera in awe, Sorry mate but that is the truth. Ask anyone on here who has gone from a Griff or Chim to a Cerbera.
The Griff and Chimaeera are pretty ordinary looking cars, with a 50's V8 fitted, and they are a lot cheaper to maintain, thats why they retain residuals better.
They are all TVR's, all of them are great Cars and each one has different characteristics.