OH MY GOD!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!
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SI-PEN

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1,009 posts

266 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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This weekend I fitted a TCS whirlwind short induction kit with performance chip and Bl**dy hell, the things evil!

The car drives much better at low revs and when you unleash it...well my god it just kept going and going and going. I just can't get over the fact that the car drives so much better and seems a hell of a lot quicker.

I've always been very pleased with the performance of my 4.5 Cerbera and went for the kit as it would replace the tatty purple pipes. The chip was something I didn't really need but thought "what the hell".

The car drives so much better and thought the extra power the re-mapped chip would give wouldn't be that noticable but the bl**dy thing is so different it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up!

If you are thinking about this mod to your 4.5 cerbera then just DO IT, don't think about it DO IT!

Si

davidn

1,028 posts

288 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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Sounds interesting Si, is this the kit from TCS, if you don't mind me asking how much did it set you back.
Cheers
David

mickk

30,458 posts

271 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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Nice one Si, its surprising how well they go, especially with the chip in the right way round

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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Good pump!

Any charts of before and after bro?

Its been quiet on the Cerbie upgrades front of late...

SI-PEN

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Sunday 18th February 2007
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davidn said:
Sounds interesting Si, is this the kit from TCS, if you don't mind me asking how much did it set you back.
Cheers
David


Take a look at the website www.trackcarsolutions.net you'll find all you need to know there.

Just don't do what I did and put the chip in upside down, you'll get the total opposite effect...thanks for the reminder Mick!


Edited by SI-PEN on Sunday 18th February 22:43

Jonnie B

229 posts

248 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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Hi.
I'am thinking along the same lines.
Do you still have your cats in and are you running a sports or standed back box.
Cheers John.

SI-PEN

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Sunday 18th February 2007
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SXS said:
Good pump!

Any charts of before and after bro?

Its been quiet on the Cerbie upgrades front of late...


Hi Ash,

No charts of before but would love to find what it's producing now. The under bonnet looks great now too, just had airboxes painted gloss black. With the short pipes and fresh paint it makes a big difference.

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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Jonnie B said:
Hi.
I'am thinking along the same lines.
Do you still have your cats in and are you running a sports or standed back box.
Cheers John.


I'm running decat and sports pipes John. TCS can do the chip to suit cats as well as decats. I think Joo at TCS has had slightly better results with standard rear boxes or the new rear boxes from SP, so I've read on here anyway.

V8Cerbera

1,220 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th February 2007
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And now the BIG question.....

Can you fit this to a 4.2? Mines already brutal but I'd never say no to a few more ponies.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

275 months

Monday 19th February 2007
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SI-PEN said:
This weekend I fitted a TCS whirlwind short induction kit with performance chip and Bl**dy hell, the things evil!

The car drives much better at low revs and when you unleash it...well my god it just kept going and going and going. I just can't get over the fact that the car drives so much better and seems a hell of a lot quicker.

I've always been very pleased with the performance of my 4.5 Cerbera and went for the kit as it would replace the tatty purple pipes. The chip was something I didn't really need but thought "what the hell".

The car drives so much better and thought the extra power the re-mapped chip would give wouldn't be that noticable but the bl**dy thing is so different it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up!

If you are thinking about this mod to your 4.5 cerbera then just DO IT, don't think about it DO IT!

Si



thumbupGood write up.

Instant power off the shelf DIY style, who'd have thought it a couple of years ago. The Whirlwind kit is a bargain and a piece of cake to fit (nowthat Joolz has given it a slight redesign), and coupled with the chip it makes it a simple upgrade for more power and improved driveability. If I was in the market for a 4.5 the this is the first mod I would do (although I'd have a bespoke map). Both the Whirlwind Kits through TCS and ACT kits through Austec have consistently been regarded as a worthwhile upgrade by Cerb customers.

Jules.

SI-PEN

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Monday 19th February 2007
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V8Cerbera said:
And now the BIG question.....

Can you fit this to a 4.2? Mines already brutal but I'd never say no to a few more ponies.


Sorry mate, it's a 4.5 thing!

cirvy

2,331 posts

292 months

Monday 19th February 2007
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Good to hear the rave revues for this.

Mine goes in to TCS today for the short pipes, cant wait

I shall report back.

optimax sniffer

1,817 posts

244 months

Monday 19th February 2007
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Cyclone1 said:
SI-PEN said:
This weekend I fitted a TCS whirlwind short induction kit with performance chip and Bl**dy hell, the things evil!

The car drives much better at low revs and when you unleash it...well my god it just kept going and going and going. I just can't get over the fact that the car drives so much better and seems a hell of a lot quicker.

I've always been very pleased with the performance of my 4.5 Cerbera and went for the kit as it would replace the tatty purple pipes. The chip was something I didn't really need but thought "what the hell".

The car drives so much better and thought the extra power the re-mapped chip would give wouldn't be that noticable but the bl**dy thing is so different it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up!

If you are thinking about this mod to your 4.5 cerbera then just DO IT, don't think about it DO IT!

Si



thumbupGood write up.

Instant power off the shelf DIY style, who'd have thought it a couple of years ago. The Whirlwind kit is a bargain and a piece of cake to fit (nowthat Joolz has given it a slight redesign), and coupled with the chip it makes it a simple upgrade for more power and improved driveability. If I was in the market for a 4.5 the this is the first mod I would do (although I'd have a bespoke map). Both the Whirlwind Kits through TCS and ACT kits through Austec have consistently been regarded as a worthwhile upgrade by Cerb customers.

Jules.


Is it worth spending another £xxx getting a custom map to suit mine or get the generic kit?

SI-PEN

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266 months

Monday 19th February 2007
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I guess it depends upon how bonkers you want your car.

Why not speak to Trackcar he'll give you an honest opinion, as he can do both!

Personally I'm happy with the generic re-map but if you want the absolute max then go for a bespoke re-map. looking at his website I think they start at £600 per session.

I think I'm spending too much time on this computer and playing with the cerb, I must get a life!!!! "Yes darling, I know, I'm sorry, I'll be right up...in a minute"

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Thursday 22nd February 2007
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How much all in?

MB

SI-PEN

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Friday 23rd February 2007
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marcus1970 said:
How much all in?

MB


Hi Marcus

This should tell you all you need to know...

TVR Cerbera 4.5 short induction system.

As used on the TCS tuned 11.9 second quarter mile Cerbera 4.5

Pioneered by TCS, this induction system is a derivitive of the first Cerbera induction system to break 400bhp on a std remapped car. Further development by Julian Marshall produced a kit that reduced the fabled Cerbera "camel hump" torque curve to a minimum, and this has now been further refined into an easy-fit mail order package.

With remapping this kit shows no loss of low end power compared to a standard Cerbera, but significant gains over 3000rpm. If you want the best possible chance of a non red-rose car breaking 400bhp you have to run a short tuned length induction system. With this system , linked decat pipes and a remapped MBE ECU most Cerbera 4.5s make 400 to 410bhp on our dynomometer, so for any Cerbera in good health 400bhp is a realistic goal using this induction kit.

The induction kit comprises 8 silicone hoses in black colour, plus a generic MBE ECU chip making this a cost effective way to get much improved performance from your car.

Price: £749.99

SI-PEN

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266 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
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I bought the used MK1 silicone hoses/pipes with chip to suit my de-cat 4.5 that was on the TCS Web-site. Joo did warn me that the MK1 pipes were difficult to fit compared to the Mk2 kit, but I found it no problem but they were already cut to length that fitted my cerbera perfectly.

The pipes looked new and when fitted look great with my freshly painted air boxes..well impressed.

Si

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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Any Pics?

MB

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

275 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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marcus1970 said:
Any Pics?

MB


Have a look here - www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=354671&f=6&h=0

Jules.