celica gt4

Author
Discussion

richiekuk

Original Poster:

46 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st February 2007
quotequote all
Anyone here got celica gt4's

silent k

783 posts

232 months

Wednesday 21st February 2007
quotequote all
I do!

Why do you want to know?

bint

4,664 posts

225 months

Wednesday 21st February 2007
quotequote all
Erm I have drivership of MOH's (Mr E on here) and have owned 2 other Celicas in the past............

I notice you have one, I'm presuming it's your way of saying hi and finding out who else has?

turbo-tastic

973 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd February 2007
quotequote all
I used to have one

mad dog1968

206 posts

214 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
quotequote all
yep i got one as well gen 6. the st205 wrc model as well.

iain

Sagacitas

290 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
quotequote all
How good are they? to drive, reliability, rear seat space, etc.

How bad is the turbo lag?

Are the UK spec models better than the imports or the opposite?

Richard

silent k

783 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
quotequote all
Sagacitas said:
How good are they? to drive, reliability, rear seat space, etc.

How bad is the turbo lag?

Are the UK spec models better than the imports or the opposite?

Richard


I love mine, it's very good to drive with loads and loads of grip, and it's quick in a straight line too. The handling is more grip than finesse though, it just grips and goes. They are very reliable, but parts do wear out and they are expensive to buy. There isn't much turbo lag really, it's certainly better than the S13 200sx I had before it. There is a fair amount of space in the back (for a coupe!), it's not huge but it's usable for short journeys, I've been in the back of mine once and I'm 6ft2!

Not sure about spec differences between imports and uk spec, the only thing I do know is the uk ones have abs as standard.

toyotajim

1,158 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
quotequote all
A UK ST205 is rated at 239bhp and a JDM at 255. Not sure if this makes a "real world" difference on UK fuel though.

Mr E

21,730 posts

260 months

Friday 23rd February 2007
quotequote all
I assume we're talking ST205 here.

Sagacitas said:
How good are they? to drive, reliability, rear seat space, etc.


Bloody fast when sorted out, grips and goes for Japan - although not subtle. If you look after them, pretty bombproof although there is a known suspension issue with the superstruts - more details on my crappy webpage.


Sagacitas said:
How bad is the turbo lag?


I have a drain pipe exhaust and no cats, so spool up is improved. On boost by 2800-3000 revs. Pulls like a train to 5000, then it goes nuts to about 5800-5900. At this point the turbo runs out of flow and it's time to shift up.

Sagacitas said:
Are the UK spec models better than the imports or the opposite?


Much of a muchness to be honest. Just buy the best car you can find. JDM cars are rated at 255PS, not bhp, so the alleged difference is less. All fours probably produce a bit more power than they're rated at (certainly, for a car that heavy the performance figures suggest that the stock 240 horses are in good health).

JDM cars get climate control. UK cars do not.
UK cars get headlight washers.
WRC homlogation chassis aren't worth any more money to be honest.

If you can't afford a good one, you can't afford to own a bad one......



I can't see anything this side of a 911 replacing mine.

mad dog1968

206 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th February 2007
quotequote all
just to add to Mr E comments, yeah they are just about bomb proof but the superstrut suspension thats fitted can start costing to repair banana arms, fiq of 8's, lower camber control arms and all are considered service items just done all mine in the last 9 months.
but once sorted the grip level is huge.
rear passenger space is limited i've had 3 adults in the back and they all said they wouldnt like to have gone further than the 10 miles we did but the kids dont have a problem apart from been able to see out the windows.
lag on mine is hardly noticable compaired to a lot of other cars

Sagacitas

290 posts

217 months

Saturday 24th February 2007
quotequote all
Thank you for the advice guys. I had been holding out to look at a UK spec car but I guess I will go and look at an import (there are a lot more of them around).

Richard

AJI

5,180 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
quotequote all
The grip is good on the right tyres it must be pointed out.

They do have a lot of understeer on stock suspension but they are a strong car and pull well.
The stock brakes are also good, all you need is some decent pads and some Dot5.1 fluid and you have a nice all round performing car.

I think the imports and the UK-specs are all the same power, just that the imports are quoted for higher octane fuel, hence the 255ps figure and not the 239bhp figure.


My ST205wrc has been very reliable and I do drive mine hard I must say. Done many trackdays, road rallys and also been to the Nurburgring a few times in it.

Mr E

21,730 posts

260 months

Monday 26th February 2007
quotequote all
Understeer can be sorted with a 130 quid rear ARB - I recommend one.

silent k

783 posts

232 months

Monday 26th February 2007
quotequote all
Mr E said:

All fours probably produce a bit more power than they're rated at (certainly, for a car that heavy the performance figures suggest that the stock 240 horses are in good health).



My JDM car was rolling roaded on Saturday at 252hp (195 at the wheels) and 260ft/lb with a standard engine, exhaust etc. Some of the other cars there with just a boost controller, intake and exhaust were getting 280+