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Caduceus

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6,130 posts

297 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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Which is the best site for value, and integrity?

I'm not going to use file sharing crap anymore ridden with viruses and spyware, so I don't mind paying a small monthly fee to download stuff.

Bud did tell me of a goodun but can't remember the name.

Thanks
Cad

eyebeebe

3,870 posts

264 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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you need four things.

software - www.newsleecher.com

newsgroup account - www.newshosting.com

winrar - www.rarlabs.com (assuming you don't have it)

Parity Checker/File rebuilder - www.quickpar.org.uk

I've also got easynews as a backup account but tbh I think I'm going to get rid because the retention length at newshosting is upto about 70 days now. It was something like 20-25 days when I first got it a couple of years ago.

If you don't know what retention days means or how to use parity files you may need to spend half an hour reading a tutorial online. It's not quite as straightforward as kazaa or whatever but the rewards are maxed out bandwidth and access to the latest stuff as soon as you can realistically expect.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

291 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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You also need an ISP that hasn't started traffic shaping NNTP out of existence at peak times, thereby stopping people who actually want to use Usenet for what it was designed for, and not for ripping off MP3s and stolen software. Yes, Tiscali, I'm talking about you.

The thieves have spoiled it for everyone else. As usual.

Caduceus

Original Poster:

6,130 posts

297 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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Oh, its ok, I'm with NT Hell. Y'know, those people who charge you for 2 meg but only give you a one meg service shoot

toni896

2,188 posts

257 months

Sunday 25th February 2007
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Caduceus said:
Oh, its ok, I'm with NT Hell. Y'know, those people who charge you for 2 meg but only give you a one meg service shoot


With them also, and my 4mb service is pretty close to 4mb,
you also get to access news.ntlworld.com, might not have all the groups your interested in.

eyebeebe

3,870 posts

264 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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toni896 said:
Caduceus said:
Oh, its ok, I'm with NT Hell. Y'know, those people who charge you for 2 meg but only give you a one meg service shoot


With them also, and my 4mb service is pretty close to 4mb,
you also get to access news.ntlworld.com, might not have all the groups your interested in.


The retention was pretty shocking on their groups a couple of years ago, have things changed?

marcel.micallef

60 posts

237 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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toni896 said:
Caduceus said:
Oh, its ok, I'm with NT Hell. Y'know, those people who charge you for 2 meg but only give you a one meg service shoot


With them also, and my 4mb service is pretty close to 4mb,
you also get to access news.ntlworld.com, might not have all the groups your interested in.


30meg here
but dont tell crap tel they dont know
re groups retention sucks at CRAP TEL

-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

282 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Everyone will tell you the best service in the world is Giganews.

I messed about for a while with some providers, always looking for bandwidth on the cheap, and generally many of them were alright, but just a bit unreliable. Retention, completion, speeds and uptime were just a little bit finicky with everyone I tried.

Then I bit the bullet and tried Giganews. I've been with them now for two years running on their unlimited package (USD25/month).

Giganews + Newzbin + Newsbin = Usenet heaven. You'll never bother with torrents or other P2P platforms ever again.

Oh, Giganews has 100 day retention (they've always had the highest in the industry, and every other provider looks to them as the benchmark both for service and maximum price!).

A great site for reading up on newsgroups if you're a virgin: www.slyck.com/ng.php

Edited by -DeaDLocK- on Monday 26th February 11:52

zumbruk

7,848 posts

291 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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-DeaDLocK- said:
Everyone will tell you the best service in the world is Giganews.


It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever who your News provider is, if your ISP traffic shapes NNTP. You simply won't be able to access the ness server.

The only solution, until the ISPs get wise to it, is to tunnel the NNTP through a VPN of some kind, or not to use NNTP at all (assuming you can find a News provider that will, for example, tunnel NNTP through HTTP on port 80.)

-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

282 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Was not aware ISPs were shaping NNTP. Have been out of the UK for over a year now, but until I left there was certainly nothing being done with my ISP.

Many providers offer ports other than 119, if the traffic is being shaped merely at port level.

TangoAlpha

1,175 posts

285 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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zumbruk said:
You also need an ISP that hasn't started traffic shaping NNTP out of existence at peak times, thereby stopping people who actually want to use Usenet for what it was designed for, and not for ripping off MP3s and stolen software. Yes, Tiscali, I'm talking about you.

For the same reason, avoid Plusnet as well.

eyebeebe

3,870 posts

264 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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zumbruk said:
-DeaDLocK- said:
Everyone will tell you the best service in the world is Giganews.


It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever who your News provider is, if your ISP traffic shapes NNTP. You simply won't be able to access the ness server.

The only solution, until the ISPs get wise to it, is to tunnel the NNTP through a VPN of some kind, or not to use NNTP at all (assuming you can find a News provider that will, for example, tunnel NNTP through HTTP on port 80.)


Easynews have a web based groups browser and download manager. I've used it on my laptop in the past when I've been staying at hotels who block NNTP and I've not got any new films/tv shows with me