best way to link 2 PCs over the internet
best way to link 2 PCs over the internet
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munky

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5,328 posts

279 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Say I want to copy files from one PC to another PC that are 100 miles apart.. what's the best way to do it? Way too much data to fit onto my USB key, and will need to do it fairly frequently so would rather not burn CDs all the time and physically transport them.

Is there a fairly simple VPN, IP tunnelling, FTP hosting or even remote desktop type answer to this? Potential problem is that both PCs have dynamic IP addresses. Being in 2 places at the same time is not an issue, can get the redhead to operate the remote PC (hence the requirement for it being fairly simple). Oh it needs to get through ZoneAlarm at both ends....

thanks

roadsweeper

3,790 posts

305 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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You have a whole plethora of options here munky! I'm assuming you just want to copy files as you state, not perform any sophisticated synchronisation.

1. FTP Server.
Use the free FileZilla server and client and install the server on one machine and the client on the other. Just send/receive files through FTP. Opening the ports in ZoneAlarm is simple.

2. Remote Access Tool
Use Radmin 3.0 (about £30) or UltraVNC (free), either of which will allow files to be copied quickly from one machine to another. As a user of both applications I would recommend Radmin as easier to install and setup.

3. Site-to-site VPN (Router-based)
Assuming your routers at both sites are compatible with each other and support it you could simply enable site-to-site VPN and copy files through that.

Of the above, I'd got for option 2 as a nice balance of security, ease of use and cost, and of course it has the benefit of giving you remote access to your PC too.

Hope this helps,

roadie.

munky

Original Poster:

5,328 posts

279 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Excellent - say I were to try ultraVNC (for now), do I need to install at both ends first? If so then I guess it's easier to have the 2 PCs in the same place when first setting it up. I doubt option 3 would work then, as there's only a router at one end; at the other it's just a cable modem.

Would the built in Win XP remote help function work for transferring files? Think I tried it once but couldn't get it to connect.

Neil_Bolton

17,113 posts

295 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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Dameware works really rather well, and you also get to download a thirty day trial

Open up port 6129 and bobs yer uncle.

I use myself and seriously rate it.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

283 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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If you just want to copy from one pc to another, you could do a lot worse than www.foldershare.com

roadsweeper

3,790 posts

305 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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I tried Dameware myself and wasn't that impressed. However, different people prefer different packages so it may just be personal opinion.

Radmin comes with a 30 day licence too and you do need to install the Radmin server on one machine and Radmin viewer on the other. Or, you could install both on both machines so you can run the access either way.

Xenocide

4,286 posts

239 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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I think you're looking for Hamatchi

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

298 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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How about Orb?

Free download. Install & run it on your "base" PC.

You can then access your allowed folders via any other PC or internet device. I use it with a Nokia N70 via 3G.

Very whizzy, as it converts videos "on the fly" to suit the phone...

Chris

nickfrp

5,156 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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look at www.logmein.com

very cool

nickfrp

5,156 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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AND

https://www.youos.com/


very very cool idea

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Have you thought about using the GMail filesystem? Just mount the online filesystem onto both computers, synch with a local briefcase and you are sorted.

Mr E

23,096 posts

290 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Or, if security isn't a huge concern - start an instant message session and have the 2 users chat to one another. Then squirt the files through.

(I'd go sftp personally)

sybaseian

1,826 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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chris.mapey said:
How about Orb?

Free download. Install & run it on your "base" PC.

You can then access your allowed folders via any other PC or internet device. I use it with a Nokia N70 via 3G.

Very whizzy, as it converts videos "on the fly" to suit the phone...

Chris



I use it all the time on work pc and an XDA Orbit. Also useful if I need a program/file from my Home Network - unix scripts, etc.

You can also send files to your PC from what ever system you are using as well.

There is webcam security add in as well for beta 2.0 version.

"Webcam monitoring with OrbSecure

While on the go, monitor your home or office by accessing your Webcam from anywhere to make sure the house is secure or just check on your pets! Your webcam is a video source! Attach it to your Orb Console PC and install the Orb Secure add-on. Learn more about OrbSecure here.
Now part of Orb 2.0!"

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th February 2007
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chris.mapey said:
How about Orb?

Free download. Install & run it on your "base" PC.

You can then access your allowed folders via any other PC or internet device. I use it with a Nokia N70 via 3G.

Very whizzy, as it converts videos "on the fly" to suit the phone...

Chris


Your post gave me the impetus to actually download and setup Orb, I've been meaning to do it for ages but never got round to it...
Suprisingly simple to setup! Not been able to test it's performance yet though as I am running it from within my own LAN. I can connect to it from work though, so that's good

So, my current system now uses all the following, all for free (disregarding hardware costs):

Windows media connect to serve videos to my Xbox360. (Can Orb do this? I noticed that the Xbox saw the Orb server)
Orb to serve videos/music to my laptop when i'm out and and about.
Logmein to fully control my home PC remotely and let me access my email, download new torrents etc...
Foldershare to copy files from my home pc when out and about.
Slingbox and slingplayer to watch my sky+ box when away from home.

munky

Original Poster:

5,328 posts

279 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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some great suggestions - thanks!

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

308 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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munky said:
Excellent - say I were to try ultraVNC (for now), do I need to install at both ends first? If so then I guess it's easier to have the 2 PCs in the same place when first setting it up. I doubt option 3 would work then, as there's only a router at one end; at the other it's just a cable modem.

Would the built in Win XP remote help function work for transferring files? Think I tried it once but couldn't get it to connect.
If you are going to use VNC you might want to use some SSL software (e.g. putty) if you want it to be secure.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Hmmm, nobody else seems to have addressed your dynamic IP issue... if you're doing "standard" ways of transferring the data (FTP, etc), then this will cause you a problem. Go to www.no-ip.com and solve the problem for free. (Worst case is a couple of minutes of it not working now and then)

If you're willing to have an intermediary step in the middle, something such as the Gmail option mentioned before would possible be a more solid approach (with added support for either PC being off/broken, and another "backup" of it all, too).

rlk500

917 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Use Skype and transfer the files within that. All the other ways/means will work, but for simplicity it's got to be one of the easiest.

slapmatt

1,132 posts

253 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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I'd suggest FTP if you simply want to copy files or if you are looking for a more VPN style solution I'll place another vote for Hamatchi.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

308 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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nickfrp said:
AND

https://www.youos.com/


very very cool idea
Didn't someone try to flog this on here a couple of years ago?