Lock & Chain
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I have the datatool, python lock and chain, ground anchor, and disc lock (devil 1000) . all do what they are made for . not the cheapest but seem very well made. Bought them from Riders In bristol as I bought My fazer from them and got a nice discount at the same time
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
scotia_steve74 said:
What do you think of an alarm on the disc lock? Overkill?
I could go Devil 100 disc lock and Abus chain - would seem a good combo
I could go Devil 100 disc lock and Abus chain - would seem a good combo
My bike is garage at work and home, both have alarms etc... So using what I do may seem already like overkill but in the end buy the best you can afford
Edited by RemaL on Tuesday 6th March 20:17
RemaL said:
I have the datatool, python lock and chain, ground anchor, and disc lock (devil 1000) . all do what they are made for . not the cheapest but seem very well made. Bought them from Riders In bristol as I bought My fazer from them and got a nice discount at the same time
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
Stop all this locking up stuff and get out there to meet me
garyhun said:
RemaL said:
I have the datatool, python lock and chain, ground anchor, and disc lock (devil 1000) . all do what they are made for . not the cheapest but seem very well made. Bought them from Riders In bristol as I bought My fazer from them and got a nice discount at the same time
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
www.datatool.co.uk/consumer/products/hardsecurity/index.php
Stop all this locking up stuff and get out there to meet me
dirty bitch. You just want me
really In April I am away for 3 weeks. So I will MSN or PM you about either May for a meet or noth this week but the next wehn I am off both Sat and Sun for meeting half way for a drink and a meal Go for 16mm section chain if you can as not many bolt croppers will open wide enough to accommodate it. Most 12/13mm stuff can be cropped given a fat bastard gyppo and some 5 foot croppers... but it'll still stop the opportunists.
Scucking fum, the lot of them
Edit: hucking fell, you'd think with my age and education I'd be able to spell 'accommodate'...
Scucking fum, the lot of them
Edit: hucking fell, you'd think with my age and education I'd be able to spell 'accommodate'...
Edited by wedg1e on Tuesday 6th March 21:35
wedg1e said:
Go for 16mm section chain if you can as not many bolt croppers will open wide enough to accomodate it. Most 12/13mm stuff can be cropped given a fat bastard gyppo and some 5 foot croppers... but it'll still stop the opportunists.
Scucking fum, the lot of them
Scucking fum, the lot of them
Same you can't fix them to the mains so they fry if they try to cut the chain. Ok I can see just one or 2 drawbacks but hay
There was some posts and here & VD recently by some people who took ruddy great bolt croppers to all sorts of Thatcham approved kit and made mince meat of the lot. Can't remember what they ended up recommending but IIRC it bent their 6ft croppers and wore them out somewhat!
Guess it all depends on what you're looking for: if someone wants it enough they'll get it; so long as you can disuade the opportunists and keep it relatively well hidden I guess you'll keep it for long enough.
Guess it all depends on what you're looking for: if someone wants it enough they'll get it; so long as you can disuade the opportunists and keep it relatively well hidden I guess you'll keep it for long enough.
Allmax chains and locks are the ones who did the bolt cropper test against other thatcham chains.
website www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/wallofshame.php
PS if u plan on carrying the chain dont get the IV its alledgedly VERY HEAVY, ok if u it leave in the garage etc. Havent got one but probably will soon
website www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/wallofshame.php
PS if u plan on carrying the chain dont get the IV its alledgedly VERY HEAVY, ok if u it leave in the garage etc. Havent got one but probably will soon
scotia_steve74 said:
Oxford do a chain and alarm disc lock for 110 at Heien Gericke
Not if you want to keep the bike.
scotia_steve74 said:
anything better?
As was mentioned you need at least 16mm links to stand a chance of resisting attack from croppers.
An Almax Immobiliser III or IV is what you need.
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/wallofshame.php
This was a clip on you tube about them cutting various chains www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck
I use a cheap disc lock with a cheapish big bit of chain and a big padlock.The bike has a thatcham approved alarm system as protection and the chain etc are just to provide a bit more protection and make life a bit harder.However if it is a pro and they want it they will get it.
I use a cheap disc lock with a cheapish big bit of chain and a big padlock.The bike has a thatcham approved alarm system as protection and the chain etc are just to provide a bit more protection and make life a bit harder.However if it is a pro and they want it they will get it.
scotia_steve74 said:
Just spoke to the woman at Almax. Impressive stuff and I'm going to get the series 3 1.5m chain with Cisa lock.
Do you think a disc lock for round town is easier as a second option?
Do you think a disc lock for round town is easier as a second option?
I would say so.
I recently bought the Almax 1.5m Series III with Squire lock and ground anchor for the garage.
Bike has factory alarm and immobiliser so use disc lock as addition when out and about.
I have an Oxford Boss disc lock, Oxford PhatBarstard chain, another chain and shackle lock when the ST13 is in the garage (which has an electric door and is wired to the house alarm, which phones my mobile if it triggers 
); I tend to just use the Boss when out and about. That, the 660lb weight of the thing combined with the HISS ignition immobiliser AND the Thatcham alarm/ immobiliser tend to suggest it'll be a squad of large scumbags with a HIAB who make off with it, rather than Jonny Lightfingers from the local council estate...
The ST11 is similarly lardy (heavier, in fact) and has a Thatcham alarm/immob.with a radio pager, plus whatever selection of locks and chains my dad has wrapped around it... I haven't seen it for a couple of weeks
); I tend to just use the Boss when out and about. That, the 660lb weight of the thing combined with the HISS ignition immobiliser AND the Thatcham alarm/ immobiliser tend to suggest it'll be a squad of large scumbags with a HIAB who make off with it, rather than Jonny Lightfingers from the local council estate... The ST11 is similarly lardy (heavier, in fact) and has a Thatcham alarm/immob.with a radio pager, plus whatever selection of locks and chains my dad has wrapped around it... I haven't seen it for a couple of weeks
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