BiB, you know someone is driving over the drink limit.......
BiB, you know someone is driving over the drink limit.......
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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

291 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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but they are abiding by the speed limits, not being erratic in any way and all their lights are working, etc.

What 'excuses' do you use to pull them over?

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

There's no hidden agenda here, I'm just curious.

Thanks

hugoagogo

23,438 posts

263 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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surely just make something up if you need a reason afterwards?

oh, except obviously police wouldn't do that

mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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Tyre Smoke said:
but they are abiding by the speed limits, not being erratic in any way and all their lights are working, etc.

What 'excuses' do you use to pull them over?

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

There's no hidden agenda here, I'm just curious.

Thanks


The fact I know they are over the limit (ie someone phoned it in or intelligence exists on said chap). Or where they have come from (pub forecourt) or stop them to check they own the car or that there documents are in order at which point if you can smell the intoxicants then you can carry out the breath test.

mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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hugoagogo said:
surely just make something up if you need a reason afterwards?

oh, except obviously police wouldn't do that


Make stuff up indeed

WeirdNeville

6,050 posts

245 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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Tyre Smoke said:

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

No, the police can stop any vehicle without reason*. It's best to have one of course, and if you look hard enough you'll find something to use, be it a feature of the vehicle or the manner of driving. Someone who's drunk will have visible flaws in their driving and reactions.

In order to require a breath test you need to have a "moving traffic offence" i.e. a vehicle defect, driving offence but not documentation offences, or else you need to suspect alcohol i.e. smell of intoxicating liquor, speech slurred, eyes glassy...

None of which matters if you open the door and the driver falls out, of course.

Hope that helps.

* IMO this works quite nicely with civil rights. You have the right to walk down the street unhindered, providing you're not up to no good. However as soon as you take charge of a vehicle you take on responsibility for the safety of those around you, and therefore it seems reasonable that the Police can stop you without specific reason in order to check that you are abiding by the law surrounding the responsibility of driving.

sheetstabuer

21,486 posts

245 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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Their driving was erratic, no honest sarge it was

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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I've been pulled after coming out of a pub car park, after a 1.5 shandies. Quite normal driving, nothing wrong, totally sober.

I didn't have a problem with it. Green light on the breathlyser.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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sheetstabuer said:
Their driving was erratic, no honest sarge it was


Doesn't have to be.
Any vehicle can be stopped at any time in order to check that the driver is a licence holder.

thinfourth

1,189 posts

251 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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Tyre Smoke said:
but they are abiding by the speed limits, not being erratic in any way and all their lights are working, etc.

What 'excuses' do you use to pull them over?

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

There's no hidden agenda here, I'm just curious.

Thanks


Do they stop for a kebab?

alphadog

2,049 posts

263 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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I got pulled driving back from the offie once. Bib said 'Did you trip outside the shop or are you pissed?'. I hadn't tripped, anyway advised him to breathalyse me repeatedly whilst he burbled on about a number of incidents locally. Eventually he capitulated and allowed me to give said clean breath test and I was on my way.

I thought his attitude stunk.

Still you always get one bad apple - every other encounter in my driving career has been friendly and professional.

V8Cerbera

1,220 posts

239 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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I was PARKED, engine off but ignition on while I was fixing an air freshner and listening to the end of a track on the CD I had in. Officer comes down my road, sees the interior light on and stops alongside.

I wind my window down and he asks me what I'm doing, I tell him, as above. He pulls up behind, gets me out of the car and requests a breath test immediately, obviously I can't say no as that would be an offence of failing to provide a specimen of breath. He then proceeds to tell me that he hasn't got a kit on him and he'd have to call a car that does have a breathalyser - Cue a 45minute wait in the freezing bloody cold (it was november) sitting on my wall outside my house while I wait for another car to show up and prove that I was clean.

djohnson

3,685 posts

253 months

Saturday 10th March 2007
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Tyre Smoke said:
but they are abiding by the speed limits, not being erratic in any way and all their lights are working, etc.

What 'excuses' do you use to pull them over?

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

There's no hidden agenda here, I'm just curious.

Thanks


Fat bird in the passenger seat and a kebab on the dash board?

C2'S'man

626 posts

253 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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A Police officer can stop a motor vehicle on a road, for the purpose of checking the drivers licence, docs etc at any time.

If when speaking to the driver, the officer suspects the driver has been drinking.....

kr

jacko lah

3,297 posts

279 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Tyre Smoke said:
but they are abiding by the speed limits, not being erratic in any way and all their lights are working, etc.

What 'excuses' do you use to pull them over?

I think that I am right in saying you have to have a reason and cannot ramdomly pull people?

There's no hidden agenda here, I'm just curious.

Thanks


A BIB I know said that He just stops anyone driving at 29 mph at 1 am on a sunday morning. WHY would any sober person not be driving at 40 past a school at that time in the morning? He says he's seen the car weaving and thought he should take a look.

711

806 posts

255 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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djohnson said:


Fat bird in the passenger seat and a kebab on the dash board?

hehe

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

245 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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catso

16,527 posts

297 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Six Fiend said:

She'd be a fair old size for her kebab to be on the dahboard!


hurl

rs1952

5,247 posts

289 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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jacko lah said:

A BIB I know said that He just stops anyone driving at 29 mph at 1 am on a sunday morning. WHY would any sober person not be driving at 40 past a school at that time in the morning? He says he's seen the car weaving and thought he should take a look.


In the politically incorrect 1960s there was a gag about the BiB who stops a motorist:-

"Obeying all the traffic signs .....keeping to all the speed limits ..... being considerate to other road users ....."

"'Ad a drop too much to drink, 'ave we sir?"

seefive

8,353 posts

263 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Best excuse I ever got for a tug years ago was "Sorry to trouble you sir, but what is holding your rear number plate on?"

I replied "Rivets, why has it fallen off?"

He replied, "No but a lot of these cars (RS Turbo) get stolen and we just wanted to see if you knew the car."

Excellent policing trying to prevent car theft as I was on my way home from work on the M25 - which co-incidentally was about chucking out time..... Frankly, I have no objection to getting pulled for this type of reason/suspicion. If the police get rid of the car thieves and pissed drivers, and I won't complain one bit about being stopped every night.

motorwise

401 posts

237 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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