ultimate rover engine
Discussion
For a streetish car what sort of power can you get from these engines,and a rough price.
Does anyone know if the wedge chassis will cope with it,axle ,gearbox?
Brakes can be easily upgraded so no prob there.
Just asking for a friend(well thats what ive told the wife)
400 bhp wedge, sounds nice
Steve
Does anyone know if the wedge chassis will cope with it,axle ,gearbox?
Brakes can be easily upgraded so no prob there.
Just asking for a friend(well thats what ive told the wife)
400 bhp wedge, sounds nice
Steve400 bhp Rover V8 is achievable but not recommended for a road car. 350 as a maximum figure before it becomes difficult to drive / pass emission tests
I used a 400bhp spec engine de-tuned to 340bhp it also had 350 lb ft and would suggest that it was probably just as quick on the road.
The SEAC engine is capable of over 300 bhp, with cam & induction mods alone..
Tim
I used a 400bhp spec engine de-tuned to 340bhp it also had 350 lb ft and would suggest that it was probably just as quick on the road.
The SEAC engine is capable of over 300 bhp, with cam & induction mods alone..
Tim
And to answer your question fully, a 350+ bhp engine allow £6000 + uprating other components, gearbox etc . if you uprate to around 320 it would probably be OK as is. There is a 5.0L SEAC with around 320 bhp & 340 lb ft which seams to survive with standard running gear .
and its seriously quick.
Tim
and its seriously quick.
Tim
2 sheds said: And to answer your question fully, a 350+ bhp engine allow £6000 + uprating other components, gearbox etc . if you uprate to around 320 it would probably be OK as is. There is a 5.0L SEAC with around 320 bhp & 340 lb ft which seams to survive with standard running gear .
and its seriously quick.
Tim
Would the same apply to a 400 Tim? presumably chassis and running gear are the same apart from the odd rose joint?
Andy
AndyM said:
2 sheds said: And to answer your question fully, a 350+ bhp engine allow £6000 + uprating other components, gearbox etc . if you uprate to around 320 it would probably be OK as is. There is a 5.0L SEAC with around 320 bhp & 340 lb ft which seams to survive with standard running gear .
and its seriously quick.
Tim
Would the same apply to a 400 Tim? presumably chassis and running gear are the same apart from the odd rose joint?
Andy
Yes, but brakes would be worth "looking at" SEACs use the 4 pot princess fronts & 28mm thick vented discs and even these are on the limit on the track.
stainless_steve said: Does anyone know where i can get the car set up on a rolling road.Someone who knows these engines, and in my area (west yorkshire). Will travel abit for the best person.
Need an MOT soon,so someone who can do that at the same time would be great.
Would also be interested to know of rolling road in West Yorkshire area or location within reasonable travelling distance. Someone who can tweak the tornado modified ECU, as it seems that my car has one.
Mark
stainless_steve said: Cheers Tim, still waiting for my engine spec off TVR.
Been told my engine is a detuned racing engine.Jag injectors ect from new, but will have to wait till i hear from the factory.
ps BIG BAD WEDGE
They all used the Jag injectors & meters, but is possible that yours has a Tuscan racer engine. as i think it was rated at 345 bhp for some reason. you could check to see if has a cross bolted block ( 4 visible bolt heads on side of block above sump )
p.s just went out to the workshop, and found myself looking at the Griff and thinking what a pretty car it is.
Tim
, I knew the SEACs noise reminded me of something 
The 520 is currently running the ultimate engine: detuned to 400 bhp currently and everything has had to be upgraded... and I mean everything! The only thing I have not touched is the diff but the chassis, gearbox, cooling wiring, fuel injection brakes, wheels, bodywork etc has had to upgraded. In my experience double what ever the engine mods cost and that will give you a better cost. For example the car has twin fuel pumps supplying 12 litres of fuel a minute on full throttle. £500 I hadn't budgeted for. £300 for an alloy rad that is needed to cope with the extra heat. Strengthening on the chassis to stop the uprights from cracking. Custom springs and shocks. Custom rear antiroll bar to get the handling right. Full roll cage to stiffen the chassis and protect the driver. Custom air ducts to keep the brakes cool. I could go on.
Fuel consumption is around 10 mpg cruising and down to 2 on a track. Needs an oil change almost everytime the engine is used. Rear tyres last about 1200-2000 miles. Now competing on slicks which does mean I get get the power down better. Gets through about 8 sets of brake pads a year.
Want to see how to spend a lot of money - goto www.t-v-r-services.co.uk. Look for the 520 story.
Steve
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Steve
>> Edited by shpub on Wednesday 23 April 22:56
Fuel consumption is around 10 mpg cruising and down to 2 on a track. Needs an oil change almost everytime the engine is used. Rear tyres last about 1200-2000 miles. Now competing on slicks which does mean I get get the power down better. Gets through about 8 sets of brake pads a year.
Want to see how to spend a lot of money - goto www.t-v-r-services.co.uk. Look for the 520 story.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
Steve
>> Edited by shpub on Wednesday 23 April 22:56
Oh god - it's so tempting.. you never seem to
have enough power but it's stupidly quick
as it is (450 seac running a 4.6) and it
already has enough licence loosing properties
as it is.
I think like Steve Heath - I recognise that the
Wedge chassis and particularly the read drive shaft
& suspension does not handle extra power as well
as say the Griff & Cerbera do.
Don't think it can really put much more power down
as easily as newer cars do.
have enough power but it's stupidly quick
as it is (450 seac running a 4.6) and it
already has enough licence loosing properties
as it is.
I think like Steve Heath - I recognise that the
Wedge chassis and particularly the read drive shaft
& suspension does not handle extra power as well
as say the Griff & Cerbera do.
Don't think it can really put much more power down
as easily as newer cars do.
Well I get my kicks sprinting the thing. You then realise how dangerous excessive speed is on a public road and you know how fast the car really is and suddenly the desire to prove yourself goes away. Not only licence saving but a responsible way to enjoy the car.
Would not recommend it for a road car as the car needs to be set up for the track first and foremost which makes it interesting to drive on public roads.
Would not recommend it for a road car as the car needs to be set up for the track first and foremost which makes it interesting to drive on public roads.
shpub said: Well I get my kicks sprinting the thing. You then realise how dangerous excessive speed is on a public road and you know how fast the car really is and suddenly the desire to prove yourself goes away. Not only licence saving but a responsible way to enjoy the car.
Would not recommend it for a road car as the car needs to be set up for the track first and foremost which makes it interesting to drive on public roads.
Steve - ever had any fun encounters with people who see what they think is an plain old Wedge? I know it's childish but I bet you've come across the odd sports car who didn't suspect what a beast was under the GRP?
Been in a works Scooby WRC (300 hp+) and a works 6R4 (410 hp)- super scary but controlled - Big Bad Wedge - much more sideways and much more fun - even a standard 350i.
Agree with Tim a true 300 hp Wedge is plenty plenty scary
Tim - do all the SEAC's have Jag injectors and AFM's or just the 450's.
GB
Agree with Tim a true 300 hp Wedge is plenty plenty scary
Tim - do all the SEAC's have Jag injectors and AFM's or just the 450's.
GB
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