Yamaha Thundercat, tourer or quiet sports bike?
Yamaha Thundercat, tourer or quiet sports bike?
Author
Discussion

Alex@POD

Original Poster:

6,439 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
Still thinking about my first bike I have widened my view and started thinking away from the SV. I plan to do longish trips on the bike so it has to be faired, but I don't want anything too relaxed, and I thought about that bike. I can't quite decide which category it falls into though?

What are those like re: fuel consuption, reliability, etc?




Edited by Alex@POD on Tuesday 13th March 20:58

996 sps

6,165 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
Would have to say a sports tourer, a soft one at that, as from what I can remember really soft suspension and felt quite restricted power wise, rather an SV than a Thundercat to be honest......

Busamav

2,954 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
A soft slightly sports tourer .

Go for the Thunderace if you want more grunt , an all round strong bike

FUBAR46

72 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
soft tourer. it was yamaha`s answer to the cbr 600 which it failed at.. then came the R6

Alex@POD

Original Poster:

6,439 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
How about the CBR 600 then? is it more sporty as it looks very soft too? Did they ever make CBR600Rs? I can only seem to find Fs, much less appealing than the 900... I thought an R6 might be too extreme for a first bike, but a Bandit not extreme enough for my liking (if you see what I mean)...

FUBAR46

72 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
how much money have you got to spend !

996 sps

6,165 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
Busamav said:
A soft slightly sports tourer .

Go for the Thunderace if you want more grunt , an all round strong bike


Yep Thunderace has got old FZR1000 Exup lump in so would still pull fairly strong......

Alex@POD

Original Poster:

6,439 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
FUBAR46 said:
how much money have you got to spend !


I'd like to stay under £2000 if I can, although I can't see where you are going...

biker's nemesis

40,320 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
Alex@POD said:
How about the CBR 600 then? is it more sporty as it looks very soft too? Did they ever make CBR600Rs? I can only seem to find Fs, much less appealing than the 900... I thought an R6 might be too extreme for a first bike, but a Bandit not extreme enough for my liking (if you see what I mean)...


They certainly did make a CBR600/FS,sport alongside the CBR600/FZ, year 2000, onwards.

The sport was supposed to cater for the more committed rider.

Sorry not sure of all the differences, old age creeping in.

John.

tim2100

6,287 posts

274 months

Tuesday 13th March 2007
quotequote all
As your first Bike a Bandit should still be very quick (Not sure on your vehicle history)

A Decent Bandit is more powerful than a SV650, if not as nimble.

Don;t forget the difference between no bike and a 600 bike is far far greater than teh difference between a R6 and a Bandit!

FUBAR46

72 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
for 2 grand you should pick up something like a 97 cbr 600, good bike to learn on and very forgiving.

y2blade

56,246 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
my bro inlaw had a thundercat back in the day...his was silver and blue went ok but tbh i'd have bought a CBR600 much better bike alround

hiccy

664 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
For 2k you could get a decent early Fazer 600 which would be younger and most likely in better nick than an equivalently priced Tcat.

6x6

142 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
Thundercat is an absolutely brilliant bike.

I now have a 2002 CBR6 F Sport, and to be honest, I would rather have my cat back. Miles more go in the midrange, you really need to wind the CBR up to get it to perform. It is also far more comfy and a much better prospect for all day in the saddle.

Yes the suspension is soft, but it is also much more adjustable on the early ones than anything available today. A visit to a suspension specialist will soon have it as a match for most of the modern tackle in the average rider's hands. The main problem is that the standard shock is not particularly long lived, but can be rebuilt. To be honest - it is criticised for being soft - but unless your a riding god or doing a load of trackdays, that makes it a better roadbike than a CBR-RR.

Oh, and when I was finished with mine as a roadbike, I threw a new shock, some sticky tyres and a race fairing at it and it made for an awsonme trackbike that more than held it's own in the fast group.

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
6x6 said:
Thundercat is an absolutely brilliant bike.
Early in our riding careers, my mates 'cat used to walk away from my Ducrappy. Was happy at an indicated 165 (apparently).

It might lack the some of the midrange torque of an SV but will be considerably faster as the revs rise; about 90bhp versus 67 IIRC. It is more torquey in the midrange than modern 600 supersports.

And they are available so cheaply. £2K should get a choice of very tidy low-milers.

black-k1

12,536 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
Alex@POD said:
Still thinking about my first bike I have widened my view and started thinking away from the SV. I plan to do longish trips on the bike so it has to be faired, but I don't want anything too relaxed, and I thought about that bike. I can't quite decide which category it falls into though?

What are those like re: fuel consuption, reliability, etc?


Do be careful of ‘grouping’ different bikes into arbitrary categories like tourer, sports etc. I have seen ‘touring’ bikes run rings round ‘sports’ bikes on twisties and I know of people who tour big distances on modern supersport tackle. It’s all down to the rider!

Try lots of different bikes before deciding which one is for you. Don’t be blinkered by image or engine size/configuration. If a bike does what you want and you are comfortable with that bike, then it’s the one for you.

carrera2

8,352 posts

249 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
My first bike was a Thundercat and I thought it was great.

Comfortable, fast and cheap to run.

6x6

142 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
rsvmilly said:
It is more torquey in the midrange than modern 600 supersports.



Totally agree. No 600 I've ridden since has come close.



Edited by 6x6 on Wednesday 14th March 08:56

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
6x6 said:
rsvmilly said:
It is more torquey in the midrange than modern 600 supersports.



Totally agree. No 600 I've ridden since has come close.
Which is why the earlier Fazer was better regarded than the current one.

dern

14,055 posts

296 months

Wednesday 14th March 2007
quotequote all
6x6 said:
rsvmilly said:
It is more torquey in the midrange than modern 600 supersports.



Totally agree. No 600 I've ridden since has come close.


I replaced my cat with a zx6r and while the 6r has more top end it was a pain in the arse to ride compared to the cat. I also thought the suspension on the cat, although softer, was better than the 6r as the 6r understeered which I found pretty disconcerting.

I'd argue that you'll find a better fazer because the cat is more enclosed to keep the weather out and would have been built from much better components in the first place.

Great bike and I made a huge mistake 'upgrading' to the 6r.