new uk speeding record
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tim_s

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275 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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has anyone been listening to radio1? i wasn't concentrating but heard something about a new UK speeding record of 156mph on the A90 or something like that. i can't find it on any news sites. does anyone have anymore details?

xsaravtr

801 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2973149.stm

A man who is believed to be one of Britain's fastest ever speeding drivers has been told he must wait to hear what sentence he will get.
Jason McAllister was recorded driving his BMW M3 at 156 mph on the A90 between Aberdeen and Dundee.

However, when the case returned to court in Forfar, the sheriff was told background reports were not yet complete.

The court had heard that 27-year-old accused was travelling at 156.7 mph, more than twice the 70 mph speed limit on the dual carriageway.

Pleaded guilty

Mr McAllister, a car dealer from Aberdeen, had earlier admitted dangerous driving and driving without insurance.

Sheriff Kevin Veal told the court he was "horrified" that background reports were still not available.

"It's not good enough" said the sheriff.

Sentence was deferred for a further three weeks.

Mr McAllister pleaded guilty on 6 March and the case was called again on 9 April.



>> Edited by xsaravtr on Thursday 24th April 14:42

mikeylad

32,127 posts

274 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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surprised nobody has been caught going faster than that to be honest.

the gumballers were regularly getting caught at those speeds and above.

mrflibbles

7,774 posts

304 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Thought M3's where limited to 155?

how do limiters work then?

superlightr

12,920 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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its taking the biscuit really.

elms

1,954 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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If I was him id say this impossible to do in a car limited to 155.

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Roadrunner

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288 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Sounds like innacurate reporting to me.

I read a long time ago that speed limits in this country only came into force because an AC cobra was caught doing 180mph on the new motorways. This was a very long time ago, obviously. So this still holds the record, not the dawdling M3. Nice try though.

Any bets on a sentance. I'll wager a 12 month ban.

robkola

1,589 posts

285 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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"Mr McAllister, a car dealer from Aberdeen, had earlier admitted dangerous driving and driving without insurance."

Oh I reckon they'll come down harder than that! Remember it's a sheriff's office!

dazren

22,612 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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He'll end up doing porridge for this as he appears not to have been insured either.

DAZ

gshughes

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276 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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I read a long time ago that speed limits in this country only came into force because an AC cobra was caught doing 180mph on the new motorways. This was a very long time ago, obviously. So this still holds the record


wouldn't have thought it was caught back then, after all what would catch it ? and no gatsos etc then either.

Think it was more a case of it being reported in the press, and subsequent public outcry etc.

scruffy

3,757 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Hmmm, guess we'll wait for the inevitable fascist iconoclastic PH holier than thou, I mow my lawn AND go to church on sunday even before thinking about golf posting personalities (you know who you are..).

No insurance, poor form.

157 point whatever mph, if he had a string of convictions for dangerous driving or death by D driving then he should be strung up.

'owever, what if he had a full racing licence and an advanced driving certificate and was on a stretch of road/motorway that he knew well and there were absolutely NO other drivers.. - loaded question (answers soon)...

dazren

22,612 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Scruff.

ISTR that up in certain parts of Scotland they charge you with Dangerous Driving for speeding above a certain level above the speed limit. A PHer got done a few months ago for exactly this, from memory he was doing 120ish on a motorway so was automatically charged for both speeding and Dangerous Driving.

DAZ

icamm

2,153 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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dazren said: Scruff.

ISTR that up in certain parts of Scotland they charge you with Dangerous Driving for speeding above a certain level above the speed limit. A PHer got done a few months ago for exactly this, from memory he was doing 120ish on a motorway so was automatically charged for both speeding and Dangerous Driving.

DAZ
Isn't it normal for 30+ over the limit to be atleast considered for dangerous driving?

icamm

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281 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Roadrunner said: Sounds like innacurate reporting to me.

I read a long time ago that speed limits in this country only came into force because an AC cobra was caught doing 180mph on the new motorways. This was a very long time ago, obviously. So this still holds the record, not the dawdling M3. Nice try though.
I thought that as well but I'm sure people on here have said it was actually more to do with the oil crisis than the speed testing done on the M1 by the likes of AC and Jaguar.



>> Edited by icamm on Thursday 24th April 17:55

pwig

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hertsbiker

6,443 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th April 2003
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Why on earth do people think that <155 = speeding, and >155 = DD ??!!!! FFS, this is absurd. Each case ought to be judged on it's own merit.

Ramjet

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274 months

Friday 25th April 2003
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If I recall coreectly in 1964 AC took the Cobra that they were preparing for that year's Le Mans and tested it in the small hours of the morning on the newly constructed M1. During testing it apparently was timed at 180mph.

However, at this time there was no NSL and so this was entirely legal ! Therefore I would suggest that this doesn't qualify as the UK speeding record, even if it is a UK public road speed record. It has been said that this incident was one of the contributing factors that led to the introductionof the 70mph NSL.

I also seem to recall that an old copy of the Guiness Book of Records that I used to have said that the longest skid marks recorded on a UK public road were something like 400 yards long, and that the police estimated that the E-Type that made them was travelling at around 156 mph when it lost it. I don't know is this was before or after the NSL, though.

As far as I know, nobody has yet broken Craig Breedlove's record with "Spirit of America II" for skid marks !

gnomesmith

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297 months

Sunday 27th April 2003
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Ramjet saidAs far as I know, nobody has yet broken Craig Breedlove's record with "Spirit of America II" for skid marks !


I understand they stretched from one waistband to the other!

DennisTheMenace

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289 months

Sunday 27th April 2003
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