Radar Detectors
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scooby_snax

Original Poster:

1,279 posts

284 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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Apart from the GPS ones is it illegal to use a radar detector now?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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There will be a specific offence under Road Safety Act 2006 when they a issue a commencement order for that section.

In the meantime Plod maty look at obstruct the police etc.

dvd

mikef

6,158 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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So, not illegal

How will the public be notified when that section is introduced?

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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mikef said:
So, not illegal

How will the public be notified when that section is introduced?


By NIP when caught using one

mikef

6,158 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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Hence the question

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th March 2007
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'tis an interesting question...

They say that "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" but how do we know when the law changes.

High profile stuff like Mobile Phones, Seat belts etc is OK because it's plastered over the media but something like this does not appear on the media's...err...radar...so they don't run it.

How do we get told of changes to the RTA, I guess the BiB, Legal bods get "Bulletins"

mikef

6,158 posts

281 months

Sunday 25th March 2007
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I've been reading through the Act, which does not actually prohibit the use of radar detectors. What it does is empower the minister to ban them when they get around to it - they obviously got around to mobile phones first.

Explanation from: www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/en2006/06en49-a.htm

Section 18: Speed assessment equipment detection devices

62. Section 18 amends section 41 of the RTA. Section 41(1) of the RTA is an enabling provision empowering the Secretary of State to "make regulations generally as to the use of motor vehicles and trailers on roads, their construction and equipment and the conditions under which they may be so used". The amendment means that it will be possible to prohibit a vehicle being fitted with, or a person using a vehicle carrying "speed assessment equipment detection devices" by means of regulations under section 41 of the RTA. The amendment defines a "speed assessment equipment detection device" as "a device, the purpose, or one of the purposes, of which is to detect, or interfere with the operation of equipment used to assess the speed of motor vehicles". The precise subset of the devices which will be prohibited will be identified in the regulations made under section 41 of the RTA but it is not intended to include in the prohibition those devices that only contain information about published camera site locations.

Wilder

1,509 posts

239 months

Sunday 25th March 2007
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If I remember correctly, the judge who said radar detectors were legal (a few years ago) allowed them because the beam from a radar/lazer gun was not interupted, altered, or any information removed from the beam.It was something to do with the wireless telegraphy act wording if I remember correctly. I believe it was because of this that the government tried -and failed to stop radar detectors from becomeing widely used not so many years ago. I am sure someone may shed more light on this. As far as I can tell ,nothing has changed so neither should that ruling.

agtlaw

7,410 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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mikef said:
So, not illegal

How will the public be notified when that section is introduced?
I'll let you know when s.18 of the Road Safety Act 2006 comes into force.


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Nearly 10 fking years?

I mean really?

drf765

187 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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The planned penalty for their use is the same as a speeding offence.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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am i understanding this right?
A 10 year old law is going to take affect soon?

Googie

2,357 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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ging84 said:
am i understanding this right?
A 10 year old law is going to take affect soon?
A thread resurrection with c 10 years between posts !

agtlaw

7,410 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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ging84 said:
am i understanding this right?
A 10 year old law is going to take effect soon?
"Soon" may be optimistic. We're still waiting for a commencement date.

poing

8,743 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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The Snooper brand dash cams have them built in.

drf765

187 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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agtlaw said:
mikef said:
So, not illegal

How will the public be notified when that section is introduced?
I'll let you know when s.18 of the Road Safety Act 2006 comes into force.
I think it needs to be amended before it does.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Radar detectors will just go off all the time from various things and you will just switch it off. 99% of UK Police use laser enforcement rather than radar anyway. You can buy a laser detector but pretty pointless as a laser speed gun can measure the speed in a fraction of a second. By the time your device alerts you, chances are a reading had already been taken.

Laser jammers are however illegal and most modern speed guns detect when a jammer is being used to alert the operator so expect a hefty fine and a court trip if caught using one.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Radar/Laser detectors of any kind are legal to own and use.

Laser detectors are useful, if you get a sensitive one, as they can pick up the scatter from another vehicle being targetted before you get into range or pick up the first few attempts for the beam to lock on to a reflective part of your vehicle.

Laser jammers are not illegal to buy or own, but if caught jamming a speed enforcement device, you could get a visit due to the error code generated and then you could be charged for perverting the course of justice if it is proved you set out to do it intentionally.


Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Wednesday 4th January 14:10

drf765

187 posts

125 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Radar/Laser detectors of any kind are legal to own and use.

Laser detectors are useful, if you get a sensitive one, as they can pick up the scatter from another vehicle being targetted before you get into range or pick up the first few attempts for the beam to lock on to a reflective part of your vehicle.

Laser jammers are not illegal to buy or own, but if caught jamming a speed enforcement device, you could get a visit due to the error code generated and then you could be charged for perverting the course of justice if it is proved you set out to do it intentionally.


Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Wednesday 4th January 14:10
Good luck with that.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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drf765 said:
Good luck with that.
Not sure luck is needed. I've had that happen at least 4 times from memory.