Taxed off the road?
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Following this with some interest as well. Wait and see, basically. Even if it does happen it may not apply to our cars. I hope 
Edited to add that even if it does apply to our cars, I can't really see it making any difference in general. Someone willing to stomach the fuel consumption of our cars is not going to be overly bothered about a couple hundred extra in road tax is he/she?
Edited to add that even if it does apply to our cars, I can't really see it making any difference in general. Someone willing to stomach the fuel consumption of our cars is not going to be overly bothered about a couple hundred extra in road tax is he/she?
Edited by o.versteer on Monday 19th March 08:37
If other recent changes are anything to go by then it's only new cars that will be affected. My car is in road tax band F not band G (like a new Focus ST is). If it wasn't only new cars then it'd be very hard to enforce for older cars. My fiance used to have a 1.0 Fiesta that chucked all sorts of horrid crap out of the exhaust but wasn't a "gas guzzler".
It'll be interesting to see if he just doubles the cost of road tax for band G cars because it's not all Range Rovers and Maybachs. Pretty much anything petrol, quick and with an engine size over 2 litres will be affected.
It'll be interesting to see if he just doubles the cost of road tax for band G cars because it's not all Range Rovers and Maybachs. Pretty much anything petrol, quick and with an engine size over 2 litres will be affected.
What with insurance companies also seriously conidering loading premiums based on car weight as well.....
Insurance black boxes 'tracking' your car so if you have an accident and you are over the speed limit they will refuse to pay out...
Even the EU are trying to get a blanket 78mph limit emposed on the still unrestricted autobahns...
Looks like a PS3 will be the only way we can get fun before much longer...
Insurance black boxes 'tracking' your car so if you have an accident and you are over the speed limit they will refuse to pay out...
Even the EU are trying to get a blanket 78mph limit emposed on the still unrestricted autobahns...
Looks like a PS3 will be the only way we can get fun before much longer...
gsxr750steve said:
What are the emissions for a Monaro - anyone know?
LOTS!
365 g/km to be exact.
BUT it passes California emissions so it's as clean as any other engine in terms of actual nasty pollutants. In terms of plant food gas it puts out quite a lot though!
Edit: the above value is for the CV8 5.7, the 6.0l is 384 g/km.
Edited by mackie1 on Monday 19th March 09:16
Total scam as usual www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/about/position/globalwarming.jsp
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
Interesting link Rich did you see the Channel 4 programme last week soem quite compelling arguments..
I have a rather smart person working for me who is well versed in astro physics and other stuff and his opinion is that when the current solar cycle ends in about 6 - 7 years time that is when any ture impact on global warming that may be ttributable to teh human race will start to become genuinely assessable..However, he was saying that as there is a proven history of CO2 rising in response to a warming climate with a lag time of a few hundred years it will be a while before we really know..
Interesting stuff
I have a rather smart person working for me who is well versed in astro physics and other stuff and his opinion is that when the current solar cycle ends in about 6 - 7 years time that is when any ture impact on global warming that may be ttributable to teh human race will start to become genuinely assessable..However, he was saying that as there is a proven history of CO2 rising in response to a warming climate with a lag time of a few hundred years it will be a while before we really know..
Interesting stuff
ringram said:
Total scam as usual www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/about/position/globalwarming.jsp
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
sad but true....
Somebody needs to nuke all these green hippy tree hugging propganda spinning retards. They will only make the poorer, poorer, and the richer richer ( ie government fat cats )
Do they think thats going to do any good for society ? Just because they want to live in trees and bathe in mud, doesnt mean normal people want to.
The easist solution to reduce human based CO2 emissions, is for all the hippy types, and people who believe all this propoganda, is to kill themselves. That would produce a massive immediate and knock on effect on CO2 emissions.
Oh, and have to mention this bood carbon footprint too. Its all I bloody hear these days. TV, radio, everywhere !!!! carbon f**king footprint !!!!!!!!!
Like I care !!!!!!!
GB needs a carbon foot buried in his mouth !!
Edited by stevieturbo on Monday 19th March 11:13
VXR_Daz said:
...Livestock generate more CO2 than all forms of transportation (cars, planes, etc) combined. Should we start taxing them?
Its been tried
www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0620-06.htm
And another thing............it perhaps wouldn't be so bad if all these so called enviromental taxes on air travel and now road tax actually went back into helping the enviroment. But of course they don't do anything of the sort, they just allow our useless government to waste a bit more on the bloody welfare state.
Bottom line, if you can afford a decent car and a holiday abroad, in most cases through hard work, you will be susidising all the bloody soap shy tree hugging job dodger's that do all the winging in the first place!
Bottom line, if you can afford a decent car and a holiday abroad, in most cases through hard work, you will be susidising all the bloody soap shy tree hugging job dodger's that do all the winging in the first place!
stevieturbo said:
ringram said:
Total scam as usual www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/about/position/globalwarming.jsp
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
The only justification is energy independance.
The solution to the problem is emmigration.
sad but true....
Somebody needs to nuke all these green hippy tree hugging propganda spinning retards. They will only make the poorer, poorer, and the richer richer ( ie government fat cats )
Do they think thats going to do any good for society ? Just because they want to live in trees and bathe in mud, doesnt mean normal people want to.
The easist solution to reduce human based CO2 emissions, is for all the hippy types, and people who believe all this propoganda, is to kill themselves. That would produce a massive immediate and knock on effect on CO2 emissions.
Oh, and have to mention this bood carbon footprint too. Its all I bloody hear these days. TV, radio, everywhere !!!! carbon f**king footprint !!!!!!!!!
Like I care !!!!!!!
GB needs a carbon foot buried in his mouth
That has got to be the best post I have read here in a while, nice one stevie.
Just make sure when the "hippy types" kill themselves they aren't cremated, that might create too many emissions!
and does the new tax take any account of mileage - as I use my Monaro as a weekend driver I only do around 6000 miles a year max. My new Astra puts out around half the Monaro in crap but I do more than 2x the mileage in it - therefore my Astra is actually a worse polluter over the year but will cost me significantly less to tax. Just goes to show how much thought these idiots put into their argument for increasing taxes to save the environment.
Splendid point Wells Fans....the same as the issue in Richmond where your residential car parking charges ar enow based on what type of car you drive.
Call it what you like it is simply yet another bloody 'stealth tax' (except it is about as stealthy as a Lancaster Bomber on fire!)which in reality is another income tax
And of course all the extra road tax will be used to fight global warming won't it....
Call it what you like it is simply yet another bloody 'stealth tax' (except it is about as stealthy as a Lancaster Bomber on fire!)which in reality is another income tax
And of course all the extra road tax will be used to fight global warming won't it.... Gassing Station | HSV & Monaro | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff