Brown has stuffed us £300 on car tax Cat.F cars

[timmo]

Oh dear !

[johnfm]

My GT3 was registered before 2001. DOes that mean it ain't category F??

[Adam B]

is this effective as of today, tomorrow or 1st April?

(f8cker by the way)

[supermono]

So peugeot 207 diesel's tax reduces by the same amount, right, to make this tax neutral?

Or is there a nice little unforseen side effect of this Environmental measure for him in terms of making some more money...?

SM

[cableguy]

Lets not forget about the additional 4.4p/litre on Unleaded and 5.5p/litre on Diesel.

C.

[leosayer]

Are you sure this is for Band F and not Band G?

[diesel130]

BBC website says £400 for top band from next year. One of the reasons I bought a 2000 model 996 which is pre-CO2 categories ...

[diesel130]

johnfm said:

My GT3 was registered before 2001. DOes that mean it ain't category F??

Yes - 1st March 2001 is the key date. i.e. X-reg good, Y-reg bad.

[Don]

[leosayer]

This is a transcript:

Brown said:

So there are potential gains from enhancing this incentive. In addition to maintaining a zero rate for the lowest band, aligning petrol and diesel rates at the diesel rate, and raising the rates by £5 each year for the next three years, and for band F by 10 pounds this year, I propose an immediate 30 per cent cut in band B from a top rate of 50 pounds down to 35 pounds, to be matched by moving the top band 30 per cent higher to £300 and then again to £400 next year - measures that will taken together cut vehicle emissions since 1997 by two million tonnes.

Looks like Band G is £300 / £400 not F.

[s99ane]

That means we should all buy X reg 996tt or gt3!

[Merritt]

What a

[diesel130]

Brown said:

...I propose an immediate 30 per cent cut in band B from a top rate of 50 pounds down to 35 pounds, to be matched by moving the top band 30 per cent higher to £300 ...

'to be matched' ... I hope he's not trying to kid us that he's even stevens in terms of income ...

BTW: Isn't a 911 band G ?

[955 GUY]

Just dont get these bands? My mates Cooper S is 207 gm only a 1.6 litre, same band as a 4.5l Cayenne S ?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4

The new car tax bands
CARS IN NEW VED BANDS

Applies only to cars registered after 1 March 2001

Band CO2 emissions VED bill* Examples

A <100 g/km £0 Honda Insight petrol electric hybrid (80 g/km)
Smart diesel (90 g/km)

B 101-120 g/km £40 Toyota Prius 1.5 litre petrol-electric hybrid (104 g/km)
Smart car 0.7 litre petrol (113 g/km)
Citroen C2 1.4 litre diesel (108 g/km)
Ford Fiesta 1.4 diesel (114 g/km CO2)

C 121-150 g/km £100 Fiat Panda 1.2 petrol (127 g/km)
Ford Ka 1.3 petrol (147 g/km)
VW Golf 1.9 TDI diesel (143 g/km)
Ford Focus 1.8 TDCi diesel hatchback (143 g/km)
Jaguar X-type 2.0 diesel saloon (149 g/km)

D 151-165 g/km £125 VW Passat estate 1.9 TDI diesel (159 g/km)
MINI One hatchback 1.6 petrol, manual (164 g/km)
Ford Fiesta 1.6i petrol (154 g/km)
Peugeot 307 1.4 petrol (155 g/km)

E 166-185 g/km £150 Ford Mondeo saloon 1.8i petrol (182 g/km)
Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 petrol saloon (177 g/km)
Rover 75 1.8 petrol salon (manual) (185 g/km)
Toyota Avensis 1.8 petrol saloon/hatchback (171 g/km)

F 186-225 g/km £190 Land Rover Freelander 2.0 diesel (205 g/km)
Toyota RAV4 2.0 litre petrol (211 g/km)
Audi A4 1.6 petrol (187 g/km)
BMW 5 series estate 3.0 diesel (212 g/km)
Mazda MX5 2.0 petrol (191 g/km)

G** > 225 g/km £210 Jaguar X type 2.0 petrol saloon auto (239 g/km)
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3.6 litre petrol (269 g/km)
Renault Espace 2 litre petrol (229 g/km)
BMW X5 4.8 litre petrol (324 g/km)
Range Rover 4.4 V8 petrol auto (389 g/km)

* Add £10 for a diesel car in bands B, C, D and E and £5 for a diesel car in bands F and G.
**For cars registered on or after 23 March 2006

Source: Department of Transport

[diesel130]

955 GUY said:

Just dont get these bands? My mates Cooper S is 207 gm only a 1.6 litre, same band as a 4.5l Cayenne S ?

Surely the Cayenne S is more than 207, no ??

[leosayer]

Here's the stupidity of it...

My 2002 Audi A6 2.7 Twin Turbo Quattro Auto petrol with 250bhp is in band F with 289 g/co2 = £190pa (last year)

My previous 2002 Audi A4 2.0 petrol Auto with 130bhp is also in band F with 192g/co2 = £190pa (last year)

My 1996 Porsche 993 C2 with 285bhp is not in any band and I paid £175 last year.

[dazren]

955 GUY said:

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G** > 225 g/km £210 Jaguar X type 2.0 petrol saloon auto (239 g/km)
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3.6 litre petrol (269 g/km)
Renault Espace 2 litre petrol (229 g/km)
BMW X5 4.8 litre petrol (324 g/km)
Range Rover 4.4 V8 petrol auto (389 g/km)

* Add £10 for a diesel car in bands B, C, D and E and £5 for a diesel car in bands F and G.
**For cars registered on or after 23 March 2006

Source: Department of Transport

My reading of this is that porsches registerred on or before the 22nd march 06 will be treated as band "F". ie not the £300 and then £400 annual road tax he mentioned in his speech?

Edited by dazren on Wednesday 21st March 14:08

[silver993tt]

Thanks greedy Brown, you just increased the value of my 1997 993 turbo, how very green of you

[jonnydangerous]

dazren said:

955 GUY said:

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G** > 225 g/km £210 Jaguar X type 2.0 petrol saloon auto (239 g/km)
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3.6 litre petrol (269 g/km)
Renault Espace 2 litre petrol (229 g/km)
BMW X5 4.8 litre petrol (324 g/km)
Range Rover 4.4 V8 petrol auto (389 g/km)

* Add £10 for a diesel car in bands B, C, D and E and £5 for a diesel car in bands F and G.
**For cars registered on or after 23 March 2006

Source: Department of Transport

My reading of this is that porsches registerred on or before the 22nd march 06 will be treated as band "F". ie not the £300 and then £400 annual road tax he mentioned in his speech?

Edited by dazren on Wednesday 21st March 14:08

I hope you're right....

[955 GUY]

dazren said:

955 GUY said:

......


G** > 225 g/km £210 Jaguar X type 2.0 petrol saloon auto (239 g/km)
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 3.6 litre petrol (269 g/km)
Renault Espace 2 litre petrol (229 g/km)
BMW X5 4.8 litre petrol (324 g/km)
Range Rover 4.4 V8 petrol auto (389 g/km)

* Add £10 for a diesel car in bands B, C, D and E and £5 for a diesel car in bands F and G.
**For cars registered on or after 23 March 2006

Source: Department of Transport

My reading of this is that porsches registerred on or before the 22nd march 06 will be treated as band "F". ie not the £300 and then £400 annual road tax he mentioned in his speech?

Edited by dazren on Wednesday 21st March 14:08

Thats correct! Not that i want to be put in band G, but does show the inefficiency of the bands?! I fall into the same band as a cooper S and less than some poor sod who is running a new 2 litre renault espace