HEAVY STEERING?????
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If you can't hear the PAS noise when you turn the wheel then it could be the 100A fuse by the battery.
Paul
PS
By David Godfrey:
Paul
PS
By David Godfrey:
david godfrey said:
one fix for no power steering (PAS): (I'm assuming that there is no power at the PAS pump here)
remove passenger wheel
remove battery cover panel
look for a red cable with a black plastic connector in the middle
remove tape and prise open cover
there is an 80 amp flat fuse in there (at this time I don't know where to get a replacement)
check that fuse is intact with continuity checker if dead replace
easy way to check if its working is start it up and as you turn to full lock it should make a noise.
if working turn off
replace cover and retape the connector back up
put battery cover panel back
put wheel back on
test it.
remove passenger wheel
remove battery cover panel
look for a red cable with a black plastic connector in the middle
remove tape and prise open cover
there is an 80 amp flat fuse in there (at this time I don't know where to get a replacement)
check that fuse is intact with continuity checker if dead replace
easy way to check if its working is start it up and as you turn to full lock it should make a noise.
if working turn off
replace cover and retape the connector back up
put battery cover panel back
put wheel back on
test it.
Edited by fairclp on Wednesday 21st March 19:56
Photo of sag any use?
info for sag
Power steer; main fuse in battery box with green/yellow feed to relay in engine compartment.
Likelihood of failure;
Fuse No.36 in drivers panel; This is shared with Lambda heaters this is the feed to the grey relay in the engine compartment.
The main 80 amp flat fuse fuse is in the battery compartment on the n/s behind the wheel. Jack up and remove the two screws and cable tie to remove the cover, look for the black plastic rectangular fuse holder on the red cable with a black plastic connector in the middle
remove tape and open cover to check the fuse for continuity.
The supply to the power steer relay has a connector with a green/yellow control wire from the ECU, open the connector by cutting the cable tie, Check this connector has continuity.
The relay in the engine compartment can be checked whilst you have the battery box open. Put a +ve live supply from the battery to the green wire to the relay. The pump should operate without the ignition on if relay is OK. To replace the relay push the tabs back with two hands then with the third! pull out the relay. The pump is from a Citroen and a Peugeot 405
Cablecolours 1 signal green/yellow
2 -Neg ground/black
3 +ve supply to relay red (80A fuse)
5 +ve to power steer pump
The steering pump cable from the relay has a connector and can be tested with a suitable heavy duty cable from the battery; 2 +ve 0-ve
info for sag
Power steer; main fuse in battery box with green/yellow feed to relay in engine compartment.
Likelihood of failure;
Fuse No.36 in drivers panel; This is shared with Lambda heaters this is the feed to the grey relay in the engine compartment.
The main 80 amp flat fuse fuse is in the battery compartment on the n/s behind the wheel. Jack up and remove the two screws and cable tie to remove the cover, look for the black plastic rectangular fuse holder on the red cable with a black plastic connector in the middle
remove tape and open cover to check the fuse for continuity.
The supply to the power steer relay has a connector with a green/yellow control wire from the ECU, open the connector by cutting the cable tie, Check this connector has continuity.
The relay in the engine compartment can be checked whilst you have the battery box open. Put a +ve live supply from the battery to the green wire to the relay. The pump should operate without the ignition on if relay is OK. To replace the relay push the tabs back with two hands then with the third! pull out the relay. The pump is from a Citroen and a Peugeot 405
Cablecolours 1 signal green/yellow
2 -Neg ground/black
3 +ve supply to relay red (80A fuse)
5 +ve to power steer pump
The steering pump cable from the relay has a connector and can be tested with a suitable heavy duty cable from the battery; 2 +ve 0-ve
There are a couple of threads on the Tuscan forum on this and I experienced your issues last year. Turned out to be a hairline crack in a seal on the steering col, which resulted in a gradual but continous loss of power steering fluid. Rack out (twice 
), seal repaired, job done. Hopefully there is a more simplistic solution for you!
), seal repaired, job done. Hopefully there is a more simplistic solution for you! 
Hi guys,all sorted. Spoke to the guys at Automeden,put key in ignition and turned to pos 2 and pressed alarm button on key fob,heard power steering pump prime,so all ok!
Dont know wot was wrong but all ok now!
I must thank everyone for all the prompt replys to my thread, you guys are the best!
Dont know wot was wrong but all ok now!
I must thank everyone for all the prompt replys to my thread, you guys are the best!
IANVRS said:
put key in ignition and turned to pos 2 and pressed alarm button on key fob,heard power steering pump prime,so all ok!
Is this not the fuel pump noise????
If I don't start my car within about 10secs of unlocking it the immobiliser kicks in. When I do the key in / pressy button thing I hear a "priming"-type of noise and was told it was the fuel pump.
I only mention this in case you do still have an intermittent PAS fault that you should maybe still be investigating?
Neil
PS
Helpful previous owner has brought the 100A fuse holder into the passenger footwell (behind the footrest) of my Tamora - so no need for wheel off if I need to change it. Wasn't that nice of them..........!!
neilboyd said:
Helpful previous owner has brought the 100A fuse holder into the passenger footwell (behind the footrest) of my Tamora - so no need for wheel off if I need to change it. Wasn't that nice of them..........!!
there is one inside the footwell as you say 100 amp and then the PAS one 80 amp under wheel arch - near the battery....
neilboyd said:
IANVRS said:
put key in ignition and turned to pos 2 and pressed alarm button on key fob,heard power steering pump prime,so all ok!
Is this not the fuel pump noise????
If I don't start my car within about 10secs of unlocking it the immobiliser kicks in. When I do the key in / pressy button thing I hear a "priming"-type of noise and was told it was the fuel pump.
I only mention this in case you do still have an intermittent PAS fault that you should maybe still be investigating?
Neil
PS
Helpful previous owner has brought the 100A fuse holder into the passenger footwell (behind the footrest) of my Tamora - so no need for wheel off if I need to change it. Wasn't that nice of them..........!!
Both the fuel pump & PAS pump both run for a few seconds on pressing the key button.
NCE 61 said:
Both the fuel pump & PAS pump both run for a few seconds on pressing the key button.
OK - thanks for that. (and to the other poster re the first 80Amp fuse comment)
'tis an education every time I visit Pistonheads.
This is probably why I have accepted that I will usually have to shell out for professionals to fix stuff for me - I'd end up doing myself (or my car) untold damage.....! I've just finished a course of physio that I suspect was caused by the contortions I had to get into to re-affix the panel to the the right of the Tamora's pedal box - it kept catching on the loud pedal. Would have been cheaper to pay a mechanic, but I thought I'd give it a go.
Neil
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