355 low milage and not serviced since july 2005 bad idea ?
355 low milage and not serviced since july 2005 bad idea ?
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phib

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4,520 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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On my search for a good 355 spider which seems pretty hard at the min !!

I came accross one that hadnt been serviced since july 2005 and now needs belts and a service, the guy recons that it hasnt been used much and only started and run round the block every month.

I have discounted the car but am I right to do so ?

It has sub 20k on the clock and aparently all the old mot's and is mint

tony h

2,703 posts

271 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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get the car ppi'd , deduct price of belts and 2 annuals from selling price and then have another look. It's not a disaster but it's not a great selling point is it. Remember when you sell on, there'll be a 2 yr service gap.

exboxster

386 posts

261 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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also bear in mind that gaps like that allow people to clock their cars. Much has been said on here of the potential for clocking 360s and 355s. I think you were right to walk. Would someone really own a 355 spider and just simply not use it ? And if they were that fanatical about not using it (residuals!) then they'd have kept the services in-line protect re-sale.

pdavison

1,638 posts

302 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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You'll find a lot of Ferrari's with service gaps like this. Quite often these cars don't get used much so people skip services due to lack of miles. Not the right thing to do but a fact of life.

As mentioned clocking is a huge issue on Ferrari's so I would pay more attention to what a PPi tells you & buy on condition of the car. A full (i.e. annually serviced) history is ideal but sometimes the best car might not fit this criteria.

chrisx666

808 posts

286 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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So the service would be 8 months late if you did it now - hardly a disaster. My oil service was due in October 06' but as the car was not going to be used until March there was little point. The fresh oil is in now ready for the summer.

tony h

2,703 posts

271 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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chrisx666 said:
So the service would be 8 months late if you did it now - hardly a disaster. My oil service was due in October 06' but as the car was not going to be used until March there was little point. The fresh oil is in now ready for the summer.


? the car hasn't been touched for nearly 18 mths -july 05

chrisx666

808 posts

286 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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tony h said:
chrisx666 said:
So the service would be 8 months late if you did it now - hardly a disaster. My oil service was due in October 06' but as the car was not going to be used until March there was little point. The fresh oil is in now ready for the summer.


? the car hasn't been touched for nearly 18 mths -july 05


?? It was serviced in July 05' so it was due July 06' - which didn't happen. It is now March 07' so it is 8 months late as per my post. Am I missing something here?.

uonlyhave2seats

64 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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What about this one? Its not my car, I have no interest in it other than I did the website for it. I consider it to be mint. I believe its going for a service next week.

www.pistonheads.com/sales/130392.htm

freewheeler

1,416 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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I don't know if Giallo is your colour but this one is a very good car indeed!!

www.pistonheads.com/sales/148112.htm

But then again, I am slightly biased.....

ferrarispider

586 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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A so called annual service is just an oil change just for a stamp. If the car has been stood then so has the oil. Driving the car clocking up miles breaks down the oil. One can get a car that never moves out of a collection, but if it has n annual service (grand overpriced oil change) Then its called a good un??? Although the oil seals dry and crack (oil seals are not checked during a yearly service by the way)
What the story should be IMO is that the oil on a supercar should be changed twice a year min if its in use. There will be no recognition for one doing this only the fact that you know and one does not need a stamp for the extra oil change due to there being no sectionin the service book for the extra oil change.
But what the story in reality is, get the oil change(and stamp) at the beginning of the year. Cane the car hard all year clocking up thousands of miles and breaking down the oil. then next year get another service (oil change and stamp) Now that makes it a viable proper ferrari on the market. Strange sh1t this ferrari ownership.


Edited by ferrarispider on Friday 23 March 12:49

amo

56 posts

240 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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pdavison said:
You'll find a lot of Ferrari's with service gaps like this. Quite often these cars don't get used much so people skip services due to lack of miles. Not the right thing to do but a fact of life.

As mentioned clocking is a huge issue on Ferrari's so I would pay more attention to what a PPi tells you & buy on condition of the car. A full (i.e. annually serviced) history is ideal but sometimes the best car might not fit this criteria.

Totally agree....if the cars been sat around and not been driven much it shouldn't make a difference if it as been serviced. Modern oils these days last for years. If the oil is nice and clean you know the owner is being truthful.

Yes clocking is an issue, but there are ways to tell if the cars been clocked (buy a couple of buying guides they usually contain info on how to tell if the cars been clocked). But having said that if you have got all the old MOT's you can verify the mileage anyway. Also phone the last place it was serviced they will usually give you a good indication on how the car is. Then get a full PPI done at a specialist and they will tell you everything you need to know.

phib

Original Poster:

4,520 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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Thanks for the replys guys I will go and have another look and go in eyes wide open !!!

Whilst the other cars look great I am really looking for a rosso / creme car ( first f car and all thet !!)

Thanks
Phib

willw

7 posts

252 months

Saturday 24th March 2007
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If car is otherwise mint, bit longer cap in services history would not put me off at all. As it was said, annual is hardly more than oil change and tbh it's more than easy to do yourself. My car is missing stamp for last year because I did it myself, actually I did LOT more than would have been done in normal annual (oil, gearbox oil, brake fluid, pads etc etc). But still with modern oils that cap should have no effect. If car is put to storage it should always have fresh oil so better to change them before winter than afterwards, and more often you change the better. IMO some people are just too sensitive when it comes to servicing F-car, it needs regular and good servicing but it's still a car!! I would be more worried about car that is more than 10 years old and with very low miles, word clocking comes to my mind...

freewheeler

1,416 posts

233 months

Saturday 24th March 2007
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phib said:


Whilst the other cars look great I am really looking for a rosso / creme car ( first f car and all thet!

I know what you mean!!! thumbup