Those little Stop/Go Signs by Roadworkers

[jasandjules]

Along the same lines as the other thread about temp traffic lights, are those little hand operated Stop Go signs taken as a legally enforcable signal?

[egomeister]

jasandjules said:

Along the same lines as the other thread about temp traffic lights, are those little hand operated Stop Go signs taken as a legally enforcable signal?

Yep, I'm pretty sure they are

[r5gttgaz]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY05URjrOf8&mode=related&search=

Edited by r5gttgaz on Friday 23 March 20:15

[Hemibum]

There's a kind of morality about it though, isn't there.

Temp traff lights are simply that.

Hand flagging is basically 2 blokes working.

Now, would you really condone running that?

[who me ?]

Hemibum said:

There's a kind of morality about it though, isn't there.


Hand flagging is basically 2 blokes working.

Road workers WORKING ??

They'll be insisting trains run to time next.

[tvrgit]

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

[jasandjules]

tvrgit said:

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

That's a shame, as whenever I am in the TVR, they turn to Stop when I get there... Can't think why. I usually get a nice knowing smile as well from Mr Roadworker, which makes me want to get out and lamp him.

[mechsympathy]

r5gttgaz said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY05URjrOf8&mode=related&search=

Genius

There's been a proliferation of automatic stop/go signs in Bristol. Very odd.

[gilbertd]

The ones that annoy me aren't the stop/go signs, but the workmen who seem to think that wearing a yellow jacket gives them the authority to direct traffic.....

[GreenV8S]

tvrgit said:

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

So if I painted up stop signs of my own and scattered them along the M1 would it be an offence to drive past them? Or are there some additional conditions that have to be met for there to be an offence?

[tvrgit]

GreenV8S said:

tvrgit said:

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

So if I painted up stop signs of my own and scattered them along the M1 would it be an offence to drive past them? Or are there some additional conditions that have to be met for there to be an offence?

Road Traffic Regulation Act - anyone who erects a sign on the public highway without the permission of the highway authority commits an offence. This includes road signs, signs that look like road signs, advertising signs tied to lamp posts etc.

Road works are usually approved in advance by highway authority. People like the AA usually get consent for temporary direction signs.

[GreenV8S]

tvrgit said:

GreenV8S said:

tvrgit said:

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

So if I painted up stop signs of my own and scattered them along the M1 would it be an offence to drive past them? Or are there some additional conditions that have to be met for there to be an offence?

Road Traffic Regulation Act - anyone who erects a sign on the public highway without the permission of the highway authority commits an offence. This includes road signs, signs that look like road signs, advertising signs tied to lamp posts etc.

Road works are usually approved in advance by highway authority. People like the AA usually get consent for temporary direction signs.

So it would be an offence for me to do it - that's fair enough. But, me having done it, would the people who fail to obey also be committing an offence?

[ledaig]

GreenV8S said:

tvrgit said:

GreenV8S said:

tvrgit said:

Again, the signs are prescribed in Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions so failure to obey is an offence.

So if I painted up stop signs of my own and scattered them along the M1 would it be an offence to drive past them? Or are there some additional conditions that have to be met for there to be an offence?

Road Traffic Regulation Act - anyone who erects a sign on the public highway without the permission of the highway authority commits an offence. This includes road signs, signs that look like road signs, advertising signs tied to lamp posts etc.

Road works are usually approved in advance by highway authority. People like the AA usually get consent for temporary direction signs.

So it would be an offence for me to do it - that's fair enough. But, me having done it, would the people who fail to obey also be committing an offence?

That would be a 'no' would it not? The signs have not been legally placed, and as such could not be enforced.

[GreenV8S]

ledaig said:

The signs have not been legally placed, and as such could not be enforced.

That's what I'd expect. If so, just because the sign is there doesn't necessarily mean it can be legally enforced.

[MR2Mike]

GreenV8S said:

ledaig said:

The signs have not been legally placed, and as such could not be enforced.

That's what I'd expect. If so, just because the sign is there doesn't necessarily mean it can be legally enforced.

If you didn't know for sure that a sign hadn't been legaly placed, would you risk ignoring it?

PistonHeads. Pedants matter

[GreenV8S]

MR2Mike said:

If you didn't know for sure that a sign hadn't been legaly placed, would you risk ignoring it?

I'd have to be pretty certain that it wasn't legally placed before I'd be willing to ignore it. But the point is that the sign complying within the specification isn't enough on its own.


Not pedantic actually - just precise.

[thinfourth]

jasandjules said:

Along the same lines as the other thread about temp traffic lights, are those little hand operated Stop Go signs taken as a legally enforcable signal?

Now while you can drive past an set of temporary traffic lights quite easily the difference is the temporary traffic lights can't lean over and whack you with the big stop sign they are holding when they get annoyed