GT2 buying guide
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Running costs are pretty similar to the 996TT for parts/engine service etc. Brakes are of course PCCB meaning Pads and Discs are considerably more expensive than the TT, and would be advisable to be thoroughly checked over before purchase of the car. Wheels and tyres slightly wider than the TT and suspension is an adjustable Coilover system with adjustable AR Bars, best to get the geometry set-up to avoid uneven tyre wear and nervous handling, particularly with the increased power and no TC.
Most importantly is to check the history and get the car thoroughly checked over, as unfortunately many of these cars have had the odd knock or two
, as discussed on previous threads.
Familiarise yourself with the search facility as 996 GT2's have been discussed many times over the last few months.
HTH.
C.
Most importantly is to check the history and get the car thoroughly checked over, as unfortunately many of these cars have had the odd knock or two
, as discussed on previous threads. Familiarise yourself with the search facility as 996 GT2's have been discussed many times over the last few months.
HTH.
C.
Running costs shouldn't be any more than the turbo except if you have the pccb's. Mine is having a service at the OPC at the princly cost of about £130!!! Ok that is a yearly service and doesn't have any oil or filters changed but it gets it's stamp in the book and keeps the service history up to date. Porsche advised that the car would be fine without an oil and filter change due to the mileage. I will be getting the oil and filters changed though at my local porsche independent specialist at a cost of £150 as i feel for the cost it's a no brainer and keeps things in tip top condition. So as you can see the service costs are not at all bad, infact i think the opc prices are the same for teh turbo and gt2 with the exception that the gt2 has it's plugs changed at an earlier interval.
Obviously factor in the cost of an extended porsche warranty.
Ownership is bliss. I did a little review of my ownership experience on another forum which i will post.
Obviously factor in the cost of an extended porsche warranty.
Ownership is bliss. I did a little review of my ownership experience on another forum which i will post.
VIN, review as promised...
"I use mine mostly on the weekends and have done several long trips. It is a perfect long distance car (mine is comfort spec), but also a blast for a short run to get the sensory nerve endings tingling. It is quite low at the front but you get used to what needs to be taken at an angle. I've not come across any speed bumps that it catches....yet and not lost the little plastic removeable gurney strip....yet. It is stiffly sprung but very well damped and not at all crashy....firm but not crashy. It is a completely different animal to the turbo, more focused and more thrilling. You need to be careful as it doesn't suffer fools gladly. I've driven it in some pretty cold and wet conditions including through a dusting of snow over the snake pass. Take it easy and the car is a pussycat. Take liberties and it will give you some warnings that it is about to let go (there are some, not lots but they are there) ignore these and it will rip your head off and sh1t down your neck!!!! I have of course been caught out and have now developed big respect for the car.....straight line on dual carriageway, a little cold and greesy, full on wheelspin at 85mph+ in 3rd, back end stepped out and went sniffing out the lorry ruts. It didn't spin but required an armful of opposite lock which kind of focuses the mind. I'm sure it felt more dramatic and out of control than it really was, but i'm not a hero driver and have very little experience of controlling cars just beyond the limits, hence my history of rolling a boxster s into a field. I have felt the car squirm several times since and it is feeling more normal and less scary.
I bought the car because i loved it since it was first released. It was (and still is) the fastest 911 ever produced by Porsche and quite possibly the badest...in a good way if you know what i mean. I followed one for a short stretch on the way to le mans at normal speeds and i just loved the road presence of the car. It just looks so epic from behind with those 315 section rears, the chassis low slung and the rear spoiler. It was only travelling at 70mph but it didn't need to be going fast for it to scream road presence.....i just don't think you get that from a tt, gt3 yes.
So, for me it would always be a gt2(but i am biased) over the tt +/- x50, purely as it is ALWAYS an event to drive and you will ALWAYS need to concerntrate. The tt will be a quicker car on most roads in the uk on most days.....but not always and never as involving. It depends what compromises you are prepared to make to own a car like the GT2, just a bit of inside information though, the rewards are rich and you don't have to be risking your life to experience them. Plenty come at 0mph ;-)
WN
Editted to say that due to the rarity of the car when new, and now even more so for a straight honest car, investment into a GT2 is likely to be a safer investment than a TT?"
Hope this prods you in the right direction!!!
"I use mine mostly on the weekends and have done several long trips. It is a perfect long distance car (mine is comfort spec), but also a blast for a short run to get the sensory nerve endings tingling. It is quite low at the front but you get used to what needs to be taken at an angle. I've not come across any speed bumps that it catches....yet and not lost the little plastic removeable gurney strip....yet. It is stiffly sprung but very well damped and not at all crashy....firm but not crashy. It is a completely different animal to the turbo, more focused and more thrilling. You need to be careful as it doesn't suffer fools gladly. I've driven it in some pretty cold and wet conditions including through a dusting of snow over the snake pass. Take it easy and the car is a pussycat. Take liberties and it will give you some warnings that it is about to let go (there are some, not lots but they are there) ignore these and it will rip your head off and sh1t down your neck!!!! I have of course been caught out and have now developed big respect for the car.....straight line on dual carriageway, a little cold and greesy, full on wheelspin at 85mph+ in 3rd, back end stepped out and went sniffing out the lorry ruts. It didn't spin but required an armful of opposite lock which kind of focuses the mind. I'm sure it felt more dramatic and out of control than it really was, but i'm not a hero driver and have very little experience of controlling cars just beyond the limits, hence my history of rolling a boxster s into a field. I have felt the car squirm several times since and it is feeling more normal and less scary.
I bought the car because i loved it since it was first released. It was (and still is) the fastest 911 ever produced by Porsche and quite possibly the badest...in a good way if you know what i mean. I followed one for a short stretch on the way to le mans at normal speeds and i just loved the road presence of the car. It just looks so epic from behind with those 315 section rears, the chassis low slung and the rear spoiler. It was only travelling at 70mph but it didn't need to be going fast for it to scream road presence.....i just don't think you get that from a tt, gt3 yes.
So, for me it would always be a gt2(but i am biased) over the tt +/- x50, purely as it is ALWAYS an event to drive and you will ALWAYS need to concerntrate. The tt will be a quicker car on most roads in the uk on most days.....but not always and never as involving. It depends what compromises you are prepared to make to own a car like the GT2, just a bit of inside information though, the rewards are rich and you don't have to be risking your life to experience them. Plenty come at 0mph ;-)
WN
Editted to say that due to the rarity of the car when new, and now even more so for a straight honest car, investment into a GT2 is likely to be a safer investment than a TT?"
Hope this prods you in the right direction!!!
Great write-up Welsh.
I'm pretty much in the same situation, the car gets used on weekends and hopefully a little more through the summer, but no matter whenever I get behind the wheel its impossible not to smile, as well as get the adrenalin pumping... As you say, this car is an event to drive and as such I am sure this will be a lengthy relationship as there is nothing quite like the 996 GT2 for thrills IMO.
C.
I'm pretty much in the same situation, the car gets used on weekends and hopefully a little more through the summer, but no matter whenever I get behind the wheel its impossible not to smile, as well as get the adrenalin pumping... As you say, this car is an event to drive and as such I am sure this will be a lengthy relationship as there is nothing quite like the 996 GT2 for thrills IMO.
C.
I can't really add anything to this except the feel good factor of driving around in a rare car (but you do get ignored by other porsche drivers, I doubt they are Pistonheaders though)
Nobody has ever attempted to race me, although they probably think I have a turbo anyway.
I remember a couple of great memories, I was following an sl55 on a really long single lane road near Aylesbury, he was overtaking a car at a time (brilliantly, I thought) he sees me in his mirrors I guess, and stays in lane. I take a few seconds to register he wants me to overtake him!
The next one was following a 997 cabrio, he was a git, wouldn't let me overtake him, and wouldn't overtake in time, to allow me to overtake as well. Well, as I had a passenger (obviously needed to show off) I overtook him overtaking, the smile on my face was fantastic, if it was considered normal to kiss a car, I would have.
Gonna go and consult Roget's thesaurus to find another word for overtake.
Nobody has ever attempted to race me, although they probably think I have a turbo anyway.
I remember a couple of great memories, I was following an sl55 on a really long single lane road near Aylesbury, he was overtaking a car at a time (brilliantly, I thought) he sees me in his mirrors I guess, and stays in lane. I take a few seconds to register he wants me to overtake him!
The next one was following a 997 cabrio, he was a git, wouldn't let me overtake him, and wouldn't overtake in time, to allow me to overtake as well. Well, as I had a passenger (obviously needed to show off) I overtook him overtaking, the smile on my face was fantastic, if it was considered normal to kiss a car, I would have.
Gonna go and consult Roget's thesaurus to find another word for overtake.
Thankyou guys for all the information, it will most probably be a GT2 that I go for and possibly the one of PH that I mentioned earlier. As long as the porsche dealer gives me the all clear ones the car has it's check in Germany then I think I will be a happy GT2 owner. The fact that the car lacks traction control etc doesn't really bother me I've ridden R1's for years and they've always been a tad lively - that's the thrill though
Hello everyone.
I can only comment from a repairers view on this subject but here goes anyway..
GT2 vs TT
GT2s go throught rear tyres some what faster than the TT , they also go through clutches faster..
TTs seem to have more problems with heatshields and little things assosiated to mileage useage,that the gt2 doesent have because most of them are not used as much as a TT.
All in all they are both 2 great cars but alas only 1 is a real supercar......
How old is the car you are looking at ?....i know someone that bought 02 UK car for £55k +/- so there are some deals to be had..but most seem to sit at the £65-£72K price.
Also get this vehicle tested for everything..mileage check get them to check the ecu data and compare to speedo to see if its been clocked..get the rev range 2 values (shows if the vehicle has been mechanically over revved).
Get all the relevant hpi checks(vehicle finance,stolen recovered and accident record)done.
I would probably get someone from a reputable body shop to check the vehicle over for you too as an opc are not that great at spotting accident damage they are after additional work for the warranty check over.
Remove things like the fron seal around the luggage compartment and pull the carpet back examine the tub for damage/repairs.
really have a good look at it underneath and inside,as alot of them have been smashed up and repaired...
Thanks
Mike
sports and classic
I can only comment from a repairers view on this subject but here goes anyway..
GT2 vs TT
GT2s go throught rear tyres some what faster than the TT , they also go through clutches faster..
TTs seem to have more problems with heatshields and little things assosiated to mileage useage,that the gt2 doesent have because most of them are not used as much as a TT.
All in all they are both 2 great cars but alas only 1 is a real supercar......
How old is the car you are looking at ?....i know someone that bought 02 UK car for £55k +/- so there are some deals to be had..but most seem to sit at the £65-£72K price.
Also get this vehicle tested for everything..mileage check get them to check the ecu data and compare to speedo to see if its been clocked..get the rev range 2 values (shows if the vehicle has been mechanically over revved).
Get all the relevant hpi checks(vehicle finance,stolen recovered and accident record)done.
I would probably get someone from a reputable body shop to check the vehicle over for you too as an opc are not that great at spotting accident damage they are after additional work for the warranty check over.
Remove things like the fron seal around the luggage compartment and pull the carpet back examine the tub for damage/repairs.
really have a good look at it underneath and inside,as alot of them have been smashed up and repaired...
Thanks
Mike
sports and classic
Edited by sportsandclassic on Thursday 29th March 06:59
DiscoColin said:
I have heard that the main differences in running costs vs a 996 TT is a particular appetite for rear tyres, but I would also expect a bit of a difference on insurance...
...not necessary, my insurance was cheaper than on my previous 996 c2!!! Work that one out, maybe due to the rarity of the GT2 some companies have no previous insurance experience hence no accident claims against the particular model?
Mike, the car is a Y reg so 2001, it is a LHD and done around 46k.
I've just been in touch with Wilmslow Porsche Centre who stated they wouldn't be able to tell me anything about the car - I thought that Porsche dealers were part of a network therefore had a central system where they can check service history of a car given reg number etc. The guy stated he could only check for cars that were serviced at that particular centre.
Any thoughts on this?
I've just been in touch with Wilmslow Porsche Centre who stated they wouldn't be able to tell me anything about the car - I thought that Porsche dealers were part of a network therefore had a central system where they can check service history of a car given reg number etc. The guy stated he could only check for cars that were serviced at that particular centre.
Any thoughts on this?
welshnobby said:
DiscoColin said:
I have heard that the main differences in running costs vs a 996 TT is a particular appetite for rear tyres, but I would also expect a bit of a difference on insurance...
...not necessary, my insurance was cheaper than on my previous 996 c2!!! Work that one out, maybe due to the rarity of the GT2 some companies have no previous insurance experience hence no accident claims against the particular model?
Mine was chaper than previous TT
Buy GT2 - cheap insurance!
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